windows 64 360 days???

[sasrob]

i have just look into windows xp to see what i have todo but it say "the pre-release software is time-limited and will expire in 360 days." whats this mean the pc will not boot after 360 days ????? help????? do any one know when there r going to bring it out if there do that is?????

[cadaveca]

It will lock itself down after the trial period. You should still be able to retrieve any data afterwords, via another OS. Word is that end of Q2 it might be released.

[GrahamGarside]

As it's only a beta preview in will stop running after that time, at which point you will need to install a full os
if we're lucky we should see it this year but don't hold your breath

[ELRocco]

i think it will boot say something like enter registration, or it will go bsod

[cadaveca]

I tried it already...could not get everything working, so deleted that partition. According to the rumour mill, we will probably see some sort of W64 at the end of May, and this has been reinforced at CES, which is running as we speak. I've played with the new GUI, but DirectNext needs some work yet, and that's being nice.

What I do know for sure, is that alot of companies have halted development of 32-bit drivers and are rushing to get 64-bit ones out, ever since the beginning of December. There has been little success tho, and it makes me wonder what will happen when DirectNext comes out...

[bradmax57]

Originally Posted by sasrob

i have just look into windows xp to see what i have todo but it say "the pre-release software is time-limited and will expire in 360 days." whats this mean the pc will not boot after 360 days ????? help????? do any one know when there r going to bring it out if there do that is?????

Hey its free

[danrok]

I'm assuming that once the retail version is released our beta versions will stop working as if by magic.

[bradmax57]

Originally Posted by danrok

I'm assuming that once the retail version is released our beta versions will stop working as if by magic.

If MS have something to do with it then quite possibly

[DiabloAbogado]

Any idea if W64 will include the DEP functionality in it? (And yes, I know that, for it to work, the processor must support DEP)

[Aedan]

Originally Posted by Microsoft

The 64-bit versions of Windows XP uses the NX processor feature on 64-bit extensions and certain values of the access rights page table entry (PTE) field on IPF processors.

Given that AMD's 64bit processors introduced the NX flag (on x86 at least), one would hope that MS bothered to use it...

[danrok]

Right! Whats the NX flag?

[GrahamGarside]

I thought SP2 included that? theres a page under performanec options in system properties for DEP, I'mon my celeron system at the moment and it says my processor doesn't support it but I'll check on my A64 system tomorrow

[DiabloAbogado]

Well ****, thanks Graham! Answered my question and turned it on!

[sasrob]

ok it's free but if i go and spend alot of my cash on a amd64fx set up what can i do after the 360 days r up? can i reinstall window's xp64 as new so then i will get 360days again ????

[Daniel ~]

No, but it will run 32 bit OS.

[sasrob]

well thats crap then so if i were to go and bye the amd 64 fx chip i will only get the full speed of the chip for 360 days then i could only run 32bit xp then i'l just have to wait and hope xp64 comes out this year!!!!!!!

[GrahamGarside]

it's the same with any new technology, the hardware first then software
anyone who remembers back to 386 days will tell you it took an age for a 32bit windows for the consumer
the fx is still pretty much the fastest 32bit chip as well i might add and unless you are doing media encoding, compression, encyrption etc.. you won't see the massive differance that 64bit can make, games for the time being are graphics card limitted

you should also run both regular xp and the 64bit side by side as xp64 isn't stable or supported enough yet to run alone
there are several linux distro's that run perferctly well in 64bit mode, I'm sure Kaitain would love to tell you all about them

[danrok]

I think we can be sure that the beta will not expire until the full-version is released, which will almost certainly be this year.

A 64-bit FX chip is damn fast regardless of whether it is running 32 or 64-bit. This is the new AMD road anyhow - forget 32-bit chips they will soon be dodo's.

[danrok]

"The next generation of 64-bit computing is currently under development and will be available during the first half of 2005."

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/6...y/default.mspx

[Augie64]

With Windows XP x64 RC1 (build 1289) being publicly released at the end of this month (we hope). XP x64 should be released in the first half of this year. the one thing about XP x64 is that there is no upgrade its clean installs when the final release comes out. So even if you have a beta version youll have to delete it.

Only thing is Windows XP x64 will only be distributed as an OEM product. there will be no box or manual.

As for Intel, rumor is that thier newest chips already have the 64 bit buiilt in, but of course its not enabled. we have had people trying to unlock it through bios updates but no success yet.