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I don't think that I was being rude at all.

Email? LOL

Everyone around here is so tight lipped it sucks. I'm sorry,but it's true. And I don't want bupcus. It's time for answers now that the board is FOR SALE.

The attitude (around here) tword prospective buyers is what sucks.

If you all continue w/ this Queenly ("let them eat ***** ) manner...epox will lose the buyers that it wants to gain.

Get over yourselves. You arrogant POS.

From where you are sitting ... you aren't selling any boards.
Either your not completely sober or you are completely stupid, either way you are completely gone.
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Great attitude.

Then I and other more inquisitive folks won't be buying.

The attitude coming from epox is arrogoant. They're only hurting themselves.
you only see epox's attitude coz they have a forum and try to help people...

They have a non-disclosure agreement with Nvidia and anyone who discloses the info will be sacked...

So get over your attitude ans top thinking you are the only person that matters...

If you really wanna know buy an £80 geieger pci analyser and publish the results yourself...

But dont expect someone to lose a high paid job on the basis of your £100 do I buy or dont I buy decision...

The results this and other NF2 mobos are achieving should be all you need to know...
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DUDE People have already confirmed that it has a locked pci with a pci bus monitoring device. PAY ATTENTION! They will not tell you for one reason and one alone and thats because they like their jobs and wish to keep em. I suggest u make sum calls see what the deal is but please do some research first
Hey youthemandan,

Do you have linkage or anything to the confirmation? I would love to read about it...
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Yea, ban everybody that asks that question.

You just banned a guy that sticks up for this hole of a place.

You owe Bruno an apology.
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Old 5th December, 2002, 12:27 AM
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I don't like everything that goes on here either, but those are their rules whether people like them or not. I've just learned to accept them. It's their site, and they are the ones who will lose if ET and Holst leave. I don't think 1 member is worth that, regardless of how you or anyone else feels about it.
ET and Holst DO provide assistance to the community through this site, and there aren't alot of Techs that actually do that.
Example:
The new bios for the 8RDA was released on THIS site not on epox uk ( at least not as of yest. afternoon ), if they didn't come here do you think they would have seen/heard/ or even cared what we were looking for, never mind get a Beta into OUR hands to try?
Ya don't have to like everything that goes on, but if ya wanna discuss things that they have asked not to be discussed ( and lets not confuse what you and others want, with what they are either willing or able to divulge), then like it or not the Mods will drill ya after you pound.
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And we pay
So tell me Atlantis, how is it that you pay? In what way are you deprived by EPoX keeping it's contractual agreements?

Do you really think they should break the law because you don't yet know enough to find out what you want to know on your own?

Caper gave you the information you say you want, why does that not suffice? Or is it the information you want? Could it be that you just want to want to see if the world will roll over because you say it should?

AKA Bruno is gone bye bye. Take a lesson from the misfortune of others and learn to leave well enough alone. What cannot be said, will not be said. All the complaining in the world will not change that.
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Yea, ban everybody that asks that question.

You just banned a guy that sticks up for this hole of a place.

You owe Bruno an apology.
How odd! Your first post and here you are telling me what I owe and to whom. Did you bother reading our forum rules before posting?

AKAB. did and he choose to disregard them. Well your entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing. Need help finding the door? Just ask":O}
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Just like akaBruno I stopped buying KFC....

because they won't tell me whats in the 11 secret herbs and spices, even though I give them my money for the 21 piece barrel...
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While EPoX grows, wich I think they deserve... there will be more newcombers at this forum that don´t really understand what a unique place this really is.

As far as I know, no other manufacturer has a forum where end user can speak direct to a engineer and get as fast response.
Look at the Bios releases ET released for 8RDA+, and this board is not available at every place yet.
Impressive!

And about banning...if I would be called POS and was a mod I sure would showed that person the door too.
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I ban AKA at 2:49
Urancore (how witty!) registers and posts in this topic at 3:12
How special is that! LOL
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I certainly don't want to fan any fires and I understand what the Epox people here are up against.

But I would like to point out that information contained in chipset datasheets or Coca Colas' secret formula is decidedly different from information about whether or not a product that is proffered for sale contains a specific feature.

No one is asking for the details of the circuitry whereby a PCI lock might be executed. No one is seeking information to be used to engineer a competing product.

People would just like a straight answer as to whether or not this motherboard is equipped with a specific feature.

I must confess that I am mystified by all this secrecy.

As rude as the original poster was, he did have one good point: the presence of that feature in question would be a very good selling point.
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You've been drawn out. It's obvious that your AOA site is bought and paid for by epox.

There is no information here worth conveying to objective minds.

Has anyone here been allowed to speak of anything that may be construed as negative toward epox?

This is nothing but an epox spam emporium.

Everyone formally associated w/ this site should be ashamed and banned from all legitimate sites.

When you choose to hide truth and spread lies, you open yourself to honest criticism. This site chooses not to face it.

AOA is epox spam.
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Hello nelamvr6

Indeed it would! And I think you and I can agree that EPoX knows it would. So why don't they? Because they have obligations to their partners as well as to their customers. We can not honorably ask that they break one obligation because some feel they have another.

If you read our announcement at the start of our EPoX topic we try to make clear why they must remain silent. A NDA is whatever two parties agree to. As has been pointed out in a previous post in this thread EPoX is not the only MBM that is bound to silence on this issue.

We have another topic which is far more open to speculation (AMD Motherboards and CPUs) where readers are free to ask what ever they like. As has been seen here our more advanced EPoX users can answer such questions. This will have to suffice.

Now I'll have to move this thread to that Topic as far to much has transpired ( The first post should really have gotten it moved) for it to remain here.
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You've been drawn out. It's obvious that your AOA site is bought and paid for by epox.

There is no information here worth conveying to objective minds.

Has anyone here been allowed to speak of anything that may be construed as negative toward epox?

This is nothing but an epox spam emporium.

Everyone formally associated w/ this site should be ashamed and banned from all legitimate sites.

When you choose to hide truth and spread lies, you open yourself to honest criticism. This site chooses not to face it.

AOA is epox spam.
Thanks for sharing Bruno, bye bye! ROTFLMAO!!
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i agree with the above exactly...

as to why there is all this secrecy i have just one idea and that is this: Company Policy

or more realistically some *cough-paper pushing-cough* laywer decided that even mentioning PCI lock could get them into trouble

no one is asking what the secret ingredient in Coke is but we are asking whether it has real sugar or something else....
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Come on drow_elf, does it really matter why they can't? I know you don't really think ET and Holst should take endless crap about an issue they have no control over.

Look at the temper tantrums that have been thrown in the EPoX topic because they honor their agreement with their employer. An employer, I might add, which has graciously allowed them to be here.

Given all that they and EPoX do for us is it such a stretch of the imagination to believe them when they say they CAN'T disclose something?

The information IS given right in this thread, what's the big deal with their not be able to speak on this issue?

As I said above it would be in EPoX's interest to use this as a selling point, but it's NOT their chip and it's not their call. Go to the Nvidia forums and demand to know, see where that gets you...Hey that might work! LOL
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Just like akaBruno I stopped buying KFC....

because they won't tell me whats in the 11 secret herbs and spices, even though I give them my money for the 21 piece barrel...
That's pretty funny.
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