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Old 19th January, 2003, 01:14 AM
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Hm, strange.
When I take the 80mm blowing over the Mosfets away, the System shuts down almost immediately.
But maybe my Palomino needs other/less Voltage than the TBred Bs...
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Old 19th January, 2003, 01:30 AM
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Yeah, there seems to be some variance on these 8RDA+s. Most of them are ok but a few of them have Vcore issues. It's good that yours performs to spec with added cooling. I already have enough fans in my system, the power section always had air moving over it, but still was unable to deliver on spec voltages.
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Old 19th January, 2003, 01:41 AM
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Hm, but I've also got an "old" one, Rev. 1,0
And I noticed that the System shuts down at 2,2V and at 2,175V though the Mosfets are cooled-down...
So my 8RDA+ seems to be less "careful" but still is
But I think that by the time the Barton is out, ET will have released a Bios that makes the Board a bit more relaxed...
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Old 19th January, 2003, 01:46 AM
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can i just cut the pin on the chip and fold it up so it doesnt make a connection?

or do i have to cut the trace leading to the pin?
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Old 19th January, 2003, 02:32 AM
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Better to cut just the trace, you don't want pins to break off of the chip. It would be really tough to cut just that one pin without damaging pins next to it, you'd need some really small cutters.


Been running all day wit no more shutdowns! :-D
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Old 19th January, 2003, 02:36 AM
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Hm, but I've also got an "old" one, Rev. 1,0
And I noticed that the System shuts down at 2,2V and at 2,175V though the Mosfets are cooled-down...
So my 8RDA+ seems to be less "careful" but still is
But I think that by the time the Barton is out, ET will have released a Bios that makes the Board a bit more relaxed...
jc,

I would consider that to be a good board. Don't do this mod if you can run over 2v with no problems.

BTW, mine is a rev1.1 so the rev has nothing to do with this issue. I don't think it will ever be fixable in the BIOS, it will take hardware changes to really fix this properly.
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Old 19th January, 2003, 03:34 AM
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I have the same problem as you guys on my "new" 1.1 8RDA+ my second board with problems.

It just shuts down when stressing the system. I think this board should have been named the "8RMA+"

Because you have to go thru 8 of them to find one that works :-D
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Old 19th January, 2003, 03:52 AM
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8RMA+

LOL!
Now that's funny!

Shhh.... stop laughing they'll catch us and then....
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Old 19th January, 2003, 08:20 AM
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ok i seemed to cut it... didnt do a thing... so i kept at it.. and still didnt change a thing...

im pretty sure i cut the right thing.. i kinda even cut the pin on the bottom of the chip...

its the 16th pin right? ocset
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All you have to do is cut it? I thought it needs resistance too?
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he said just cut it with an exacto knife
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Old 19th January, 2003, 08:26 AM
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Who said?

There are two pins.

pin 15 is the Fault Detector

pin 16 is the OCset.

Don't know which one needs cutting. So you cut 16 and no go huh?
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yeah i cut 16 up pretty badly... did he say 15 too in his xtremesystems post? that forum is down now.. i cant check.k.. do u remember?
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I thought Holst mentioned pin 15 here but with added resistance.
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yeah that page he linked with the write up of that chip states that 15 has to do with the checking of voltage and tripping the power off... photon cut 16 though
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Old 19th January, 2003, 08:48 AM
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You know, when my system shuts down, the fans are still spinning. The system is not really off. I have to hold power in to shut it down.

Wouldn't the OVP shut the system off totally if that were it?
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mine turns off all the way.. fans and everything.. the comp is off! and siren rings!
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Hmmm

can you see the inside of your case? That debug light is still on when it happens to me. The screen just goes black
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everything shuts off here except siren
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If the siren is on, that means the system is ON.
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