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Old 19th May, 2004, 09:52 AM
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Try setting your CPU back to defaults and see if the machine is still unstable. If you still get the crashes, I'd try a different video card.
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i dont have the options to try another videocard whit 8x agp
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I haven't tried to run an 8x agp, but this does sound similar to a device driver problem that I had (one of many). First I would suggest setting your mobo back to the stock speeds while attempting to get the upgrade/update/fix running. You don't want to have too many things happening that can have a negative effect. Get into the hardware manager and delete the device, reboot and let the system re-find the device, and then install the drivers.

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is it me or is there somethong wrong whit this i set my bios to agp x8 and agp 1.5v
and my comp crash after 5-10min whitout opning any program than winxp
Like I've said it before, it's probably your card not co-operating at 8X. gizmo said it as well.

I know you have already tried all software updates such as motherboard chipset driver, AGP driver, Video card driver, control panels, etc and didn't work.

I know you enabled it in BIOS and tried different video settings in the BIOS like I told you to and still didnt' work..


You also did say your GF3 card cannot do 4X AGP, but you can do 2X i take it..


There are two factors:

1). Both your GF3 and Radeon9600 cards are unable to run 4X(for GF3), 8X(for r9600). Meaning your cards are dud or defect.

OR,

2). There is "Circuit Devil" monster running around in your house. It goes after every one of your computer systems and make it hiccup when enable 8X.. There is noting you can do about it. Give it up.. Screw that AGP 8X. Just run it at 4X. There isn't much of performance difference between 4X & 8X. I used to beat the CRAP out of systems running at 4x when mine was at 2x with my bad azz AGP bus frequency overclocking and FSBs... I totally mopped the floor with it..

Overclock and tweak rest of the system. Forget AGP 8X.
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well i dont think there is mutch more to gain i cant get my cpu to launch abouv 2.5gzh *11.5 x218 * @ 1.95v and my videocard makes artifact just i raice it by 4hz on core and 2hz on mem i have a hs from an old amd cpu on my videocard

any sugestion what i can do to get faster whit this system my temps has never been abouv 47c and there is alitle more rpm left in the fan
my ram is on 3.1v i dont get more fsb at 3.2v
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What size is your PSU? Bringing up all the voltages does push up the power requirements quite significantly.
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well i dont think there is mutch more to gain i cant get my cpu to launch abouv 2.5gzh *11.5 x218 *

"any sugestion what i can do to get faster whit this system"
What BIOS version are you running right now.

If you are running 11-29 BIOS:
- Set your CPU interface to "Aggressive". It is in the memory option menu in the BIOS.

- This bios already has "Command Per Clock" setting in the memory option as well. So you are good to go. If you are not experiencing stability problem at 218FSB, then you are good for now. The performance should be very good.

If you are on newer BIOS version, you will have option to enable or disable the CPC(Command Per Clock) and I suggest you enable it. This will put more strain on the memory. Some memory handle it well while some others don't.
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im using 11-27-2003 and my cpu interface is alrdy set to aggressive
isnt 11-29 a beta bios
what cpu scould i look for if want to go faster
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Old 20th May, 2004, 09:33 AM
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im using 11-27-2003 and my cpu interface is alrdy set to aggressive
isnt 11-29 a beta bios
what cpu scould i look for if want to go faster
my apology, i meant 11-27. I wouldn't push anymore FSBs because it seems your memory sticks aren't made to handle higher FSBs. Your performance should be good right now. 2.5ghz isn't bad at all. That is pretty good overclock considering you are running DFI Lanparty. Your CPU could probably go a little more but increasing the multiplier by one notch is too much. Maybe few more FSB could do it, but your memory is topped out already so I would just leave it alone until you get some better memory.
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I know the circuit devil, it is called DFI. Sorry if it offends the DFI lovers out there but I have gone through 1 Lanparty Ultra B and four(4) NFII Ultra Infinities and had problems with all boards from bios issues to not booting half the time. While I do admit that the DFI boards OC better than my AN7 (I can only hit 220 FSB with this AN7 but hit 440 with the Ultra Infinity) the issues with the boards weren't worth the extra bandwidth.
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Yeah, that was 3dmark01 (not 3dmark01se). I haven't yet installed 3dmark03.
Ya know you can get it at www.aoafiles.com or just click here, http://files.aoaforums.com/index.php?dir=211
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I know the circuit devil, it is called DFI. Sorry if it offends the DFI lovers out there but I have gone through 1 Lanparty Ultra B and four(4) NFII Ultra Infinities and had problems with all boards from bios issues to not booting half the time. While I do admit that the DFI boards OC better than my AN7 (I can only hit 220 FSB with this AN7 but hit 440 with the Ultra Infinity) the issues with the boards weren't worth the extra bandwidth.
I'm talking about circuit devil from "outside" the computer systems, running around in his house and chasing after all of his computers. Wherever he goes in the house, the ghost follows him and get inside the motherboard and prevent from running 8X AGP, or 4X AGP in his other boards(not DFI board). He has stated that he cannot use AGP 4X in his OTHER board(not DFI) with his GF3 card as well. LOL

I was referring to the circuit devil, not the "board" itself. DFI boards do not have issue running 8X AGP interface. I haven't heard people having this problems in the other forums I go to. As for the booting issue, BIOS version 4-29 or newer has fixed many of their DFI Infinity/LP b boards. Still, not "All", but many of their boards have been fixed by it.

Tip: If you say you don't want to offend people, then don't say it to begin with. It works better that way.

Besides.. you "suppose" to have problem with the booting with DFI boards. it is not normal if it boots on you steadily. Randomly not booting is normal... I would be laughing if the DFI boards always boot. I have no problem with it, so is some other overclockers.

I wrote an article about this board for the Aoaforum site over 2 months ago. I explained about the problems and what this board is good for. These boards aren't made for the "general publics", those who don't overclock hard, those who don't bench to the limit. This board is suitable for the extreme overclockers and benchers. You shouldn't even have bought this board 5 times in a roll. Maybe you got this info too late, but I am telling you now. Now you know it that this board doesn't fit you.
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Yeah, that was 3dmark01 (not 3dmark01se). I haven't yet installed 3dmark03.

Ya know you can get it at www.aoafiles.com or just click here, http://files.aoaforums.com/index.php?dir=211
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Yup, that's where I got 3dmark01 from. What's the difference between it and 3dmark01se?
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Old 21st May, 2004, 11:09 PM
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it fixes some bugs that orignial 3Dmark 2001 had. Plus upgrading to the SE version(along with 330 version) has better support for the newer computer hardware.
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This card o' mine has 64 meg of RAM, and right now I've got my AGP aperture set at 64 meg. Would it help my scores any to increase this to 128?
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This card o' mine has 64 meg of RAM, and right now I've got my AGP aperture set at 64 meg. Would it help my scores any to increase this to 128?
How much of system ram are you running? It is suggested to run the AGP aperture at half the amount of total system ram so if you have 512mb of ram, run it at least 128MB or 256MB of Aperture for increased performance. yes it will help 3dmark score a little bit.
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I've got 512 MB, so I guess I'll bump it a little bit the next time I'm in the BIOS. Tnx.
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