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im scared of flashing bios

iv been trying the last mouth to get my comp to run whit 2x512mb stick
2 kits of mushkin special 222 and now a kit of ozc 3500 the muskin could barly run stable at 200 fsb and the ocz cant run stable at 217fsb all whit fab timing
but then i found this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=38282

im using bios version 11/27 i want to change but every where i go i read about ppl that have ruing ther bios by upgrading it
so ill be verry glad if some could give link to corect bios and how to flash it step by step
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Get yourself a BIOS Saviour then you wont have to worry if you screw up the BIOS by flashing, a flick of the switch and you will be up and running again. Not sure if there is anywhere in Denmark that sells them but www.eksitdata.com in Sweden post all over Europe
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funny how ppl gather when someone is scared but they dont entend to help
like telling where i can dl the korect bios

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I can't speak specifically to the DFI boards because I don't own one, but in general, a blown flash occurs because you powered the machine off too soon, or you tried to flash while running with OC timings instead of defaults. I've never blown a flash personally except when I did something stupid like that. If worse comes to worst and you flash your BIOS and blow it away, you should be able to get a replacement BIOS chip for $15 or so. Seems to me like ExcaliberPC sells them.
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i alrdy set it to stock speed 11x166 *think thats stock speed and i replaved the 1gb ram whit 2x256mb and running prime now to make 100000% sure it runs stabel
i found a bios that suport morbil cpu scould i also change my cpu whit a athlon 2200+
before i flash ?
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Depends on the mobo. Some mobos won't boot with a CPU they don't recognize, and I dunno if the DFI is in that category or not. Better to do the flash first, then investigate the 2200+ mobile option.
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is not a mobil 2200+ but the 2500+ is a mobil
im using a mobil 2500+ not but it seamce like my bios dosnt surport it but the new bios well surport it

i cant install the driver for mobil devise from windovs update as it is now
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If your machine is running right now with a mobile in it, then I can't imagine it having the slightest effect on the success of the BIOS flash.
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Reason I didnt offer advice on where to get the proper BIOS or how to flash is because you shouldnt even attempt to flash the BIOS on a DFI Infinity or lanparty (NForce2) unless you have a BIOS Saviour. I am talking from experience, I have lost count of the times I have corrupted the BIOS, even pushing the FSB or multi too much can corrupt the BIOS. Believe me they are a real PITA so my advice is still get a BIOS Saviour before you even contemplate doing any DFI BIOS flashing.
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i just flashed my bios was sitting on the edge on the chair but now its done and 1 gb works whit cpc off but its a slowdonw cpc on 11 3 3 2.0 is faster than cpc off 11 2 2 2.0 and it seams like its getting a litle warmer maybe cos of the bigger ram modul + its almost summer
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Hi,

how do you change the settings from CPC on to CPC off?

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on my dfi board i had to upgrade the Bios but be carefull if u update bios on a dfi lanparty board

it well help if u put ur comp specification in ur sign
im not the on to welcome u to this great forum that made me a desent amd OCer from a newbiebabynoob
so ill just say im glad u found it
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Thanks for the answer, i didn´t know that a bios update would unlock the CPC function! I had the old bios from Nov. 27. on it, now it´s better with CPC off! I came up to Max. 254 FSB with 11-2-2-2-2!
I Love the DFI Lanparty Ultra B and BH-5 Ram!

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Thanks for the answer, i didn´t know that a bios update would unlock the CPC function! I had the old bios from Nov. 27. on it, now it´s better with CPC off! I came up to Max. 254 FSB with 11-2-2-2-2!
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im using bios version 11/27 i want to change but every where i go i read about ppl that have ruing ther bios by upgrading it
so ill be verry glad if some could give link to corect bios and how to flash it step by step
The more important thing you have forgotten is that so many many many DFI users "assume" their bios is corrupt. The bios is actually not corrupt but people tend to think it's "Oh!, the bios is corrupt!!". i find this b....s......... Guess what happens... people endup returning their board even though it's actually not dead. yes.... the board is buggy and sometimes will have trouble booting on, not necessarily because the bios is corrupt.


And guess what.... I have never corrupted bios by flashing it. Every time when I flashed it, the system came up fine and run like crazy ox... funny why that is.... but happens to me everytime. People who know how to get around boot bug issue are able to "keep" their board for a long time. Those people who RMA their board 5 times in a roll shows that they actually don't know what they are doing. Just because the board didn't boot doesn't mean the bios is corrupt no sir........ it's not that simple as ya think. The "bug" is not the same as "bios corrupt". It can mean very very different. Mega difference....
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I suggest you use WINFLASH.... To be honest, you'd be stupid to not use winflash when it is available. Available?, USE IT. That would be my absolute first choice. All that flashes I've been doing are winflash and it just simply doesn't make my system go dead. Why is that?

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I always suggest just using the flash utility provided by mobo manufacturer..
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The more important thing you have forgotten is that so many many many DFI users "assume" their bios is corrupt. The bios is actually not corrupt but people tend to think it's "Oh!, the bios is corrupt!!". i find this b....s......... Guess what happens... people endup returning their board even though it's actually not dead. yes.... the board is buggy and sometimes will have trouble booting on, not necessarily because the bios is corrupt.


And guess what.... I have never corrupted bios by flashing it. Every time when I flashed it, the system came up fine and run like crazy ox... funny why that is.... but happens to me everytime. People who know how to get around boot bug issue are able to "keep" their board for a long time. Those people who RMA their board 5 times in a roll shows that they actually don't know what they are doing. Just because the board didn't boot doesn't mean the bios is corrupt no sir........ it's not that simple as ya think. The "bug" is not the same as "bios corrupt". It can mean very very different. Mega difference....
I wish you had my DFI and also my mates one then you would know that what you have just written is not true or to quote you "b....s......... ". Our DFI BIOS will corrupt if we look the wrong way at it. If its not the BIOS thats corrupt explain to me why repeated attempts to boot will do nothing but switch to the BIOS saviour and it will boot without a second thought.
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there IS documentation from DFI telling their users TO NOT FLASH IF YOU HAVE THE FIRST VERSION OF THE BOARD. That is all. People who flash end up with the machine failing to boot, but solved when power is disconnected and then restored. Sound like an issue with the bios chip itself....you get the same sort of behavior when your cmos battery dies. Anyway, people who have the first version of the board have been requested to return the board for the updated version.
It took me about 5 days to get the info straight on this. I want a lanparty for my next system, but when i read abt the flashing probs, i started to look at other boards. Then i ran into the notice ON DFI'S SITE ON THE BOARD PAGES it says abt the bios flash. I emailed dfi and got the response, that should you have the first version, and a bios flash fails, send back the board for the newer version.
so i started research by board revisions. seems the second one get higher fsb's too. Now i'm back to buying DFI.

PCB Revision A
Date Code 2004/06/19
File LPNF26191.zip
Size 320,691 bytes
Description Remarks:
1. Please give instruction "AWDFLASH N24LD619.BIN /F/QI/CC/Sn/Py" upon flashing BIOS.
2. "Load Optimized Defaults" will be required after completing the BIOS flashing and before entering Windows OS since this version is overall renewed.
Major Reaons for Change:
To solve the occasionally auto reboot issue.
To solve the cold-boot bug.
To solve the Bug of S3 Resuming.
To Support "Boot Menu" feature.
To include the micro codes of mobile CPUs.
To add new RAID BIOS of Sil 3114 in version 5.0.35.

looks like they solved it with the new bios...there are 3 versions released the same day...people were probably flashing with the first.
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