new build.

[madcatmk3]

I need you all to look over this build for me. add $400 after for the finaly price.
$300 to build and $100 for an OS.
http://www.xoxide.com/hiper-power-supply-blue.html
http://www.xoxide.com/xopacl2.html
http://www.xoxide.com/zalman-7700-cu-cpu-cooler.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143044
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231020
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152025

[Seperah]

$300 to build? Christ man, don't you think thats a bit much to charge?
*no wonder you have so much money*

What about a CPU?
Sound card or integrated?
Optical drives?
If this is going to be used for gaming -- find out exactly what games, becuase
buying a $750 dollar GPU just to play C&C or madden is absolutely insane.

[Exile69]

You do realize 512 GTX's are completely unavailable everywhere. You're not getting one any time soon. Might be better to get an 1900XTX, they release in about 1 week.

[Áedán]

They are? I think that might just be the US. I know they are available in Australia and Europe.

[madcatmk3]

errrmm sorry about the procesor, it a 4400++. The person I'm working for has a ATI biast. I'll see the 1900 though. there using some samsung drive I forgot.
I'm chargin $300 since $200($100+ extra $100 since they want it built in under two days) then 100 since of a new heatsink and I'm OC'ing it. I'm also optimizing everything and extra since it's acrylic aka ultra neat cables.
I usally only charge 20% or 10% if it's over $2400

[Exile69]

Only %20 on $2800? That's ridiculous. Any reason as to why they're biased against ATI...? Can you not just tell them to wait 1 week 'til it comes out so they can see what performs better and make the best decision available instead of pushing excessive nVidia products on people that aren't even available?

[madcatmk3]

also the 1900 how much is that? I was slightly uneasy to go to a 512 from dual 7800GT's($50 more).

[madcatmk3]

Originally Posted by Exile69

Only %20 on $2800? That's ridiculous. Any reason as to why they're biased against ATI...? Can you not just tell them to wait 1 week 'til it comes out so they can see what performs better and make the best decision available instead of pushing excessive nVidia products on people that aren't even available?

I can probly get one though. and I meant $2400 oops. I used to do it all for 10% but my parents insisted that I raise my prise. and the thing is if they want nvidia and are unhappy with ATI it's not good for me.

[madcatmk3]

so the build it's self?

[yogurt_21]

aside form the obvious over expensive 512gtx, the system seems nice but I'd put the extra 150$ into memory (the x1900xtx released at the same price point as the x1800xt, 600$)
http://www.onsale.com/onsale/shop/de..._id=bwbfroogle
theres many sites but most like this have little info and no pics yet, most are preorder.

mem should be lower latecy,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231032
only a few dollars more and much better latency and timings.

that still leaves you with 130$ to work with.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106063
better than the zalman and you said you liked the look not to mention it being perfectly 130$. not the best performance but way better than air.

[madcatmk3]

I'm not sure if they want water cooling and having an acrylic case maks it more comples, but I'll ask them. I might go with the 1900XT when I see a bech/review on it. Definetly going with the better mem. Thanks.
P.S. are my rates really that high?
1] Aurora™ 7500

Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4400+ with HyperTransport and Dual Core Technology
Operating System (Office software not included): Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2
Warranty: 90-Day AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support
Power Supply: Alienware® 650 Watt ATX 2.0 Power Supply
Chassis: Alienware® Full-Tower Case - Space Black
Chassis Upgrades: AlienIce™ 2.0 Video Cooling
Motherboard: Alienware® nForce™4 SLI™ Motherboard
Graphics Processor: 512MB PCI-Express x16 NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7800 GTX
Memory: 2GB Low-Latency Dual Channel DDR PC-3200 at 333MHz - 4 x 512MB
System Drive: High Performance - 250GB Serial ATA II 3Gb 7,200 RPM w/8MB Cache
Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive
Sound Card: Integrated High-Performance 7.1 Surround Sound with S/PDIF and Coaxial Digital Outputs
Primary Display: No Monitor
Secondary Display: No Secondary Monitor
Network Connection: Integrated High Performance Gigabit Ethernet
$3,208.00+200ship

[Exile69]

You really can't compare a big company like Alienware or Dell's prices to yours.

[madcatmk3]

But were still building the same thing. The way I see it they charge $1000 for a warrenty and fancy name. The case isn;t even very good. Ultimitly my computer will do the same thing the alienware does (with less problems my alienware has tons). SO why can't I compare they get thier parts cheaper then me and give less choices plus I explain it to the people.

[Exile69]

Because your clients are paying for your know how. People buying Alienwares usually don't know how to build their own computer and just have tons of money to spend.

[madcatmk3]

The problem is the people I see buying alienware don't have money to spend but they dop anyway. I help epople if they want an Alienware to at a price for technical knolage. ALienware isn't always expensive if your going for a gamming PC which dell charges twice for. People buying from me also have no idea how to build thier own computer.

[yogurt_21]

honestly your prices aren't at all high or outrageous, rememeber who you're talking to these are people who would rather build their own systems, your customer obviously doesn't know how or want to. I'm a retailer myself and your prices are on par with mine (charging wise, I've a retailers discount so the end result is cheaper)
but 300$ for a decent system is quite cheap, these people obviously wouldn't pay it but then again they're not really the target market now are they?
no worries continue with your price range.

[madcatmk3]

I used to chage much less my parents insisted I raise my prices. But yes for someoone who can build their own system it's outrages to put out an extra $300 where you could get a better vid-card or cooling for that.
and by retailer do you own a store?

[yogurt_21]

yes but I'm quite considering closing down the store front and going strictly online (no site currently but the revenues seem to be more there) rent is killer during lulls and online seems to have more consistant sales.

[madcatmk3]

why don't you sell yout sell stuff through AOA classifieds at less of a profit to you, you get buisness and we get cheap parts? Where all happy.

[danrok]

Originally Posted by yogurt_21

yes but I'm quite considering closing down the store front and going strictly online (no site currently but the revenues seem to be more there) rent is killer during lulls and online seems to have more consistant sales.

AOA has an excellent and very affordable advertising system. We can do clever stuff like geo-targeting if needed. Free quotes on request!