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Old 27th June, 2006, 12:01 AM
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I'm still gunning for 754 to outlive 939
In a meeting with AMD at CeBIT06, they told me that the 754 will indeed live a bit longer than 939. Some 3-5 months, if I recall correctly.
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Yet only because of the Turion branding?
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More, with prices:

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AMD prepares for battle: Terminates multiple processor models; prepares price cuts of up to 46%

Monica Chen, Taipei; Carrie Yu, DigiTimes.com [Thursday 22 June 2006]

To simplify its production portfolio, AMD will stop producing a number of Socket AM2, 939 and 754 processors later this year, with the company not taking orders for the processors after June 28, according to industry sources.
The Socket 939 Athlon 64 4000+ and 3700+ will be the first to be phased out, with orders for the models ending on June 28, while delivery will cease on July 2. Delivery for the other processors will cease at the end of the year.


AMD Athlon 64 X2 July 24 price cuts (US$)
Socket Model Old price New price Change
AM2 5000+ (65W EE) 696 465 (33.2%)
5000+ 696 403 (42.1%)
4600+(65W EE) 601 352 (41.4%)
4600+ 558 301 (46.1%)
4200+(65W EE) 417 276 (33.8%)
4200+ 365 240 (34.2%)
3800+(35W EE) 364 362 (0.5%)
3800+(65W EE) 323 194 (39.9%)
3800+ 303 169 (44.2%)
939 4600+ 558 301 (46.1%)
4200+ 365 240 (34.2%)
3800+ 303 169 (44.2%)
http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20060622PR211.html
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754...people need more than it offers...mostly in motherboard connectivity. But even finding 754 boards nowadays, without going mailorder, is a bit difficult. It's a bit sad that they overshot sales with production so much, but at the same time, 939 does not have a ton of stock left over ATM...754 is a "skeleton in the closet"...


emachines and the like should be buying the old stock IMHO, but OEM's need to lower board prices at the same time.

I know in the channel the amount of 754 boards for SI far outweighs those for 939, and in general 754 cpu sales are greater than 939. Not everyone has an ATX board with a crossfire or sli chipset.

Plenty of foxconn 754 solutions with 6100 + 410 chipset in literally hundreds of thousands of badged machines around the world running Semp0rns.
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In a meeting with AMD at CeBIT06, they told me that the 754 will indeed live a bit longer than 939. Some 3-5 months, if I recall correctly.
In a meeting with AMD at CeBit'06 I think I fell off my stool and spilt my beer. But "think" I heard the same.

Memories - I remember a couple of guys from XFX getting friendly with my female colleague and someone who will remain nameless from the UK offices of a well known GPU vendor having to peel me off these guys with vigor as I battled for the honour of my colleague after several pints of guiness in a certain Irish bar in Hannover centre. Yet another normal CeBit.
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that's why i said emachines and the like...

I am merely amazed at the lack of 754 parts in retail outlets that i have seen. the performance is there for entry-level users...I used to argue the performance potential way back when, remember?

Uh, the board in your avvy...case and point. People were saying 754 was dead before that board was released! But most people buying in retail parts outlets are gonna get bigger and better than 754. This leaves budget boxes from OEMs.
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that's why i said emachines and the like...

I am merely amazed at the lack of 754 parts in retail outlets that i have seen. the performance is there for entry-level users...I used to argue the performance potential way back when, remember?

Uh, the board in your avvy...case and point. People were saying 754 was dead before that board was released! But most people buying in retail parts outlets are gonna get bigger and better than 754. This leaves budget boxes from OEMs.
The board in my avvy is a 939 - thats a 9NPAJ SLI. But I know the board you're talking about - the 8NPA SLI.

I remmeber the sole purpose of that board was for small SI's to be able to sell a solution that was SLI for small bucks. And thena load of idiots went and bought it and put 2 x 7800GTX in it for the performance to be completely throttled by a lack of CPU power.

That board was designed for use with 2 x 6600GT's at best.

I have a friend on MSN here in the UK who has 2 x 7900GTX on A8N32 SLI with a X2 4400, he is forever complaining because he doesn't know how to overclock but he feels his '06 scores are low - think how he'd feel if he had a 3400+ S754!!!!

But back to it - yes - its that emachines business that sells chips in volume, problem is just not quickly enough at this moment perhaps and hence the strategical shift.

When you can buy a Pentium D 805 for...............
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In a meeting with AMD at CeBit'06 I think I fell off my stool and spilt my beer. But "think" I heard the same.

Memories - I remember a couple of guys from XFX getting friendly with my female colleague and someone who will remain nameless from the UK offices of a well known GPU vendor having to peel me off these guys with vigor as I battled for the honour of my colleague after several pints of guiness in a certain Irish bar in Hannover centre. Yet another normal CeBit.
I wasn't sure if you were at CeBIT or not m8. If I had known, I would have come by to say hello.

As for the "nameless" person, this guy wouldn't happen to have a Russian sounding name, would he? I wouldn't be surprised... as this guy I'm thinking of (I'm sure you know him) also happens to like pints.
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Guess i'll have to get one before next year then. If i can get a 4000+ X2, then i've maxed it out on my motherboards compatibility side.
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I wasn't sure if you were at CeBIT or not m8. If I had known, I would have come by to say hello.

As for the "nameless" person, this guy wouldn't happen to have a Russian sounding name, would he? I wouldn't be surprised... as this guy I'm thinking of (I'm sure you know him) also happens to like pints.
You mean Andreas Baneas (or similar) - nope weren't him! But he's one good dude - got drunk with him at The Inquirer.net party.
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You mean Andreas Baneas (or similar) - nope weren't him! But he's one good dude - got drunk with him at The Inquirer.net party.
Andrzej Bania was indeed my first guess. Could have been Chris Hook as well, if it was someone from the red team.
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