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Old 2nd July, 2006, 04:12 PM
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Question S939 AMD64 X2 price drops, which to buy?

Now that the prices on socket 939 CPUs are falling, who has some recommendations on which dual-core to go for?
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Old 2nd July, 2006, 04:28 PM
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The 3800+ really can't be beat for the price. You could go for an Opteron with the larger cache, but there really isn't much of a gain. The other best option would be the 4200+ for about $70 more, but I don't see it being as good a value, at least not for me, as I will usually OC a cpu and the 3800+ and 4200+ tend to overclock about the same anyway.

My issue with dual cores is still the price. You aren't really getting twice the cpu, but the price is 3x as much. I don't do a lot of multi tasking and when I do, I really don't see any issues with a single core chip.
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1mb cache cpu's clock higher. Opty 170-185 would be my pick. Extra hypertransport links to chipset on Opteron cpu's lead to greater FSB and memclocks.

3800+, 0604, and up, lower serial numbers, ldbhe stepping, are awesome cpu's.

singlecore...opty 148, 150, and 152 are top picks...tend to scale better than FX-57's too.
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So, it's not so much the bigger cache which helps, but the fact that an Opteron 170 is going to be a higher grade of silicon?

I was tempted to get an Opteron, but I'd like to have a play with a dual-core.

I'm not looking to be benchmark king. Just want something I can overclock to 2.6+ Ghz with water.
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Pretty much any low-serial number cpu will get you that nowadays. Yeilds are good.

If you can, pick your cpu in person, get a low number, and recent weeks of production.

Opteron's aren't necessarily better...It's just a matter of enabled features. Most Opterons come from the middle of a wafer, while the outsides get binned lower, but this doesn't mean the Opteron is better, as sometimes wafers on a whole are good, and this is becoming more and more common since Chartered started producing for AMD.
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Pretty much any low-serial number cpu will get you that nowadays. Yeilds are good.

If you can, pick your cpu in person, get a low number, and recent weeks of production.

Opteron's aren't necessarily better...It's just a matter of enabled features. Most Opterons come from the middle of a wafer, while the outsides get binned lower, but this doesn't mean the Opteron is better, as sometimes wafers on a whole are good, and this is becoming more and more common since Chartered started producing for AMD.
Given the stability of this AM2 core (eseentially a truncated and addended 939 core for the mem controller) at stock volts and with low temps I'd say to go for whatever keeps the wallet happiest. As you know you can play so many tricks with memory dividers that having a low max multiplier doesn't matter too much nowadays.
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It IS almost chipset dependant. Haven't had the pleasure of playing with an AM2 yet. I tohught 939 was what this was all about. AM2 is another boat, my friend.
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Which leaves it at NF4 Ultra, 550, 570, 590 or a crossfire variant - nothing else worth touching on AM2. And then it all comes down to BIOS quality.
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Once the price cuts for the X2 set in (I've heard anywhere from $150-180 for an X2 3800+), the 3800 is the best choice imho.
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