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Old 13th May, 2002, 04:55 AM
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I still believe in 1/6 divider

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Old 13th May, 2002, 05:03 AM
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This subject is taboo in the Epox Topic. Your post has been moved to AMD Mobos because of this. Please read the stickies in the Epox topic, especially the Enough is Enough one. I'm tired, and am going to bed. Good night.
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Old 13th May, 2002, 05:41 AM
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not to rub salt or anything here... ESPECIALLY cuz i have NFI how sore this subject may be, alls i know is what i see above...

k, i jus wanna say that EPoX and all other mobo makers oughta be putting proper dividers into their mobos.

so show em the pics!!

listen, we're AOA = Advancement of Overclocking Arts!

this means, we know where advancements COULD, and SHOULD be made, right? they ought look at our results, useage, needs, and use that info collectively to make a better, more usefull and ideal end product...

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so, again im sorry if this steps on toes or whatever,
just that yea, i'd definitely look for dividers in any mobo i purchase solely for O/C'ing.
(knowing now what i've learned from forums such as these)

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Old 13th May, 2002, 05:47 AM
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Nice OC. Now, whats this about 1/6 divider? What does it mean?

(Oh, and yeah, I'm a n00b)
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Old 13th May, 2002, 11:30 AM
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well they are referring to the PCI divider, it takes teh FSB and divides it down to get the clock speed for the PCI cards. the standard is 33mhz. so at 100mhzFSB u have to divide it by 3, 133mhz is divided by 4..... there has been a lot of fuss about 1/5 and 1/6 dividers, which allow you to overclock higher as they keep the PCI bus in spec at higher FSB's

It's a sore subject over in the EPoX topic as ET isnt allowed to tell us stuff that EPoX say he cant, people were giving him a hard time because of it, and to be honest, it was tedious having every man and his dog creating a thread entitled "1/5 and 1/6 dividers" or something
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Forget dividers. Newer OC boards come with the option to lock the PCI and AGP buses so that no matter what speed you're running the FSB at, your devices are running at spec. DJ2000, nice OC, but you don't have any PCI devices to crap out. If you were to use IDE drives, I'd bet money that you would get HD corruption at that speed. It's been the general concensus that there is no 1/5 divider let alone a 1/6 divider.
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Old 13th May, 2002, 03:22 PM
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Guys, please keep in mind when talking about unpublished capabilities, there may be legal ramifications to consider. To the overclocking community (us), this type of information in a definitive manner is very valuable. However, there may be licensing or other issues that would not concern us, be very critical to manufacturers and such. I'm not sure how serious it was, but for a while, Intel was threatening SIS with a lawsuit because of their desire support of 133FSB. This was settled, (I think). To support P4@133FSB, mobos (and chipsets) need a 1/4 divider.

One conclusion you might make is that sis's older P4 chipset does support a 1/4 divider (purely speculation on my part). However, because at the time, Intel did not sell 133fsb P4's (and more importantly didn't collect special licensing fees on it), feathers were ruffled. Think about it.. Until recently, no P4 boards were advertised to support 133FSB (533 if you want to be technical). This is where the suits control marketing.

If you think it's there, and it works for you great. Because of our unique status with Epox, we have to respect their obligations and responsibilities. Please feel free to post your findings in our AMD forum.
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you do make sense SteveI.

like i said, i have No idea what was goin' on about EPoX or anything. but if the dude can'tsay something, then nobody oughta push/provoke something from him... that's certainly not cool.
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Old 14th May, 2002, 02:09 AM
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Actually I do have PCI devices attached . How 'bout my SCSI card to start with , then my NIC, then my sound card all running great at 200 FSB. (33Mhz PCI) Anyway, I know the topic has been beaten to death. I also know my system is visibly faster at 200/150 than it was at 133/133 and just as stable, so I think I will stay there.

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Actually I do have PCI devices attached . How 'bout my SCSI card to start with , then my NIC, then my sound card all running great at 200 FSB. (33Mhz PCI) Anyway, I know the topic has been beaten to death. I also know my system is visibly faster at 200/150 than it was at 133/133 and just as stable, so I think I will stay there.

Love to tweak and experiment !!
Hey, I'm happy for you that you can run that high. I wish I can run that high, but my HD starts crapping out at any speed over 150. Can't transfer large (5GB) files without errors. Anyway, I'm glad to know another person is taking their system as far as it can go!

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You could just get one of these and check: IOSS RD2 Monitoring Panel with USB+1394 Ports

If PCI is running at 33mhz, all is well.
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Old 15th May, 2002, 11:30 AM
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Im still in two minds about the deviders on the 8kha+

There is definately something acting on the PCI/AGP cards to allow the board to run at such high fsb.

I dont beleve that my PCI cards would run at 50mhz

But Ive seen evidence from those PCI test cards that says that there is no devider. (and occiliscope tests claiming there is one)
I dont think id beleve either without seeing it for myself.

I think there is something other than deviders at work, latency change or something.

Not everybody can run at 200, i get soundblaster problems around that speed so if there is a 1/5 or 1/6 devider it dosent work perfectly. I think its more likely that there is something other than deviders at work.
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I am VERY happy with my ABIT AT7 MAX which has a 1/ divider and works pretty darn well- just awating a new hd and intel pc camera!
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