Xp1800+

[SpideY]

Hello, could someone direct me on a easy overclocking guide so i could overclock my XP1800+. or if anyone has any advice on how i could do so. i dont want to fry anything in there...

talking about temperatur, my cpu is always around 52C/127F... is it ok? bad? good??.... dont know much about all this.

thank you very much.

[Random Nonsense]

Your best bet is to stick around for a while lots of things to learn around here!

52c is a little to warm to even start thinking of overclocking. your 1st goal should be to get that temp down! something about 40c at stock speed give you enough temperature overhead to start experimenting with overclocking. What kind of heatsink/fan and case fans do you currently have? with that information we can give you advice on how to get your temps down a bit. Then we move on to the ultimate goal.... making that chip scream!

[Daniel ~]

This is as good a place as any to drag out my shameful secret. Consider it a cautionary tale.

While using Super glue to fill the laser cuts on my 1600 I smeared a bit on the bridge contacts. So I gently used the needle I used to apply it to scrape away the excess glue. In the process I scraped too deep and uncovered gold beneath.

I've checked the chip and its still usable. But the exposed sub surface is touching two bridges, no way I can connect the bridges now.

[SpideY]

i installed a Volcano 7 fan with his huge heatsink, its actually going at 4500rpm...
i only have 1 case fan, but then, my side panel is always removed... so i guess it is useless.

Mother board is a Asus A7V266-E with 512Mb DDR PC2100.... if that can help..

[Pinky]

Originally posted by Daniel ~
This is as good a place as any to drag out my shameful secret. Consider it a cautionary tale.

While using Super glue to fill the laser cuts on my 1600 I smeared a bit on the bridge contacts. So I gently used the needle I used to apply it to scrape away the excess glue. In the process I scraped too deep and uncovered gold beneath.

I've checked the chip and its still usable. But the exposed sub surface is touching two bridges, no way I can connect the bridges now.

Had exact same thing happen to me, so I used a bit of the silicon stuff (gap filler from the highspeedpc.com unlocking kit) on the mistake and was able to get the multipliers to work

Stick around and give us some specs, we should be able to guide you in any direction needed... this is how I first started

[Random Nonsense]

Me and spode had that happen too! Are you using a thermal pad? or proper thermal grease between the CPU and heatsink? V7's are ok sinks, so long as you get one with an even base....

[SpideY]

well, the heatsink was "ready to install", so i cleaned the cpu a bit, the i stick it up on it... there was already paste (not sure about this word, i'm french canadian, so my english is.....so-so) on it... maybe i should buy some more effective thermal paste.

[Daniel ~]

Originally posted by Pinky


Had exact same thing happen to me, so I used a bit of the silicon stuff (gap filler from the highspeedpc.com unlocking kit) on the mistake and was able to get the multipliers to work

Stick around and give us some specs, we should be able to guide you in any direction needed... this is how I first started

I've had better luck in the past, just blew it this time.

I smoothed over the scrape with super glue. As it's a back-up box and Im well and truly broke, I'm going to settle for what I can squeeze out of the front side bus, then pass it along to Patt ~ in few (6) months.

[The Spyder]

Ya win some and ya loose some dont ya Dan? My 1600 unlocked 5 times- cant do 11.5

My 1800 posts at 2gig And is stable at 1936
Spyder

[Daniel ~]

I had much better luck with my 1.0 Chip. And of course the 2200 was a walk in the park. Next up 2800... but not for awhile":O}

[SpideY]

well. i have trouble figuring out wich message is for me, and wich is not..... and since i'm new to this, i dont really understand what your all talking about... i feel more confused then when i first started thinking about overclocking.....

[The Spyder]

SimpleFied~
1. Temps to High to o/c
2. Unlocking can "prevent" you from unlocking
3. My 1800 AGOIA Y overclocks HiGH
4. Some CPU'S are eaiser to unlock then others~
5. Get a new Heatsink

[Random Nonsense]

6. Use a good thermal paste, the pad supplied on the bottom of many heatsinks is as effective as chewing gum.

[SpideY]

ok, once i manage to get my temperature down, what do i do next?

[Random Nonsense]

Go into your bios and look around for FSB and voltage settings. By increasing the FSB the cpu will run faster... please do not do this with your current cooling as the likelyhood of success is pretty low When your temps are down a bit, try increasing FSB in 5mhz incremements, once it will no longer boot into windows and run a program such as Folding @ Home or another CPU intensing application without crashing, increase the Vcore by a small amount, up to 1.9 volts is safe according to EPoX tech. If you still crash, back the FSB down 1mhz at a time until you are completely stable.

Again i must stress this is a risky procedure with your temps as they are now. remember also, advice taken from people from this website etc is entirely at your own risk, and overclocking will void your warrenties!

[SpideY]

ok. thank you very much for your help. if anyone thinks about any advice they can tell me. feel free to do so in here.

[SpideY]

ok. i managed to get my temperature down to 44 degrees, then i started to check everything about overclocking my cpu. i've set my system clock at 148Mhz with a multiplier of 11.5 for a total of 1701Mhz. the system bus is at 296Mhz
at full load i get 54 degrees wich i think aint bad at all. i will soon add more ventilation to my case in order to get it down a few more degrees if possible.

i have one question, the only thing i was able to change was the system clock, changing the multiplier would have no effects on my cpu speed, how come? the other thing is, my asus probe informs me that the max speed i could get is 1700Mhz, but i managed to get it to 1701... how come?
and finally, i would like to know how would changing voltage help me, as i see you talk about this often. thank you very much.

[cloasters]

Welcome to AOA, SpideY!

Excellent job of lowering your CPU's temperature. Seven degrees C is no mean feat, well done! The Multiplier can be changed on AMD processor's but it's not easy. If you have a spare Athlon Thunderbird/Thoroughbred or Duron CPU handy, "de-staticfy" yourself before handling the processor, then have a careful look at the top of the little Printed Circuit Board or ceramic "package" that supports the processor proper. You know, the little lozenge of silicon that is the actual CPU.

Tiny little gold printing identifies the L1, L2, L3 and so on, up to the L7 bridges, on a Duron. Maybe there's an L8 on T-breds. You have to look very carefully to see the bridges. They don't look like the Golden Gate. They are either two dots or a straight line.

A straight line shows that that particular bridge is connected. Two dots mean that the bridge is open. Most AMD processor's have a combination of open and closed bridges that are set at the fab. The pattern of closed and open bridges determine the processor's Multiplier as well as other things.

Those wacky overclocker's have discovered that they can change the "identity" of the CPU by setting the bridges the way that they want to. Most people don't want to change their processor's Multiplier so that the processor will run more slowly than AMD intended. Flabbergasts me, I gotta tell ya.

As the bridges are soooo tiny, it's not easy to change the way that they're connected. It involves clean living, an eye like an eagle and the hands of a Swiss watchmaker. Or, you just pay the ~$50 extra and buy an Athlon MP. No need to mess with their bridges. Multiplier as you like it.

As to the 1 Mhz discrepancy between 1700 and 1701 Mhz? No need to worry, this kinda stuff happens all the time in the wonderful world of PC's.

[Marvin]

Originally posted by The Spyder
Ya win some and ya loose some dont ya Dan? My 1600 unlocked 5 times- cant do 11.5

My 1800 posts at 2gig And is stable at 1936
Spyder

That is great spyder, mine agoga cant reach 1900 even at 2.2 vcore. need best stepping.
[]´s

[SpideY]

hello.

thank you very much cloasters, but i think i'll let those bridges as they are...hehe. would'nt want to break something there. i pushed things a bit taking my speed up to 1725Mhz, everything still running smoothly, still getting 54 degrees full load. 50 degrees idle. i was wondering how will i know when to stop taking it up? what will happen if i take it a bit too high? are there any dangers of burning up something? the system bus run at 300Mhz... is it too high? thank you very much for your answers.