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[FuK]poudaman 6th November, 2002 12:57 AM

K7s5a...totally nada! dead or cureable?
 
HI ALL!
Some of u might wonder why u see me here at the ecs forum while i used to hang out at the epox forums. I bought this mobo to set up a small pc for me lady so she can work for school without messing up my machine !
the problem i have is:
I connected the mobo to a 300 watt psu. Put the amd duron 800 on it. Seated the 128mb siemens 133 ram and a tnt 16mb card. When i power up all that happens is that the fan will spin on the cpu sink. Nothing welse....no peeps nor screen is visible.....totally nada.
The board was second hand and i saw it work at the guys place where i bought it from. Th erest of the hardware works fine on my ....yeahhh , epox mobo!


Do u have any idea what this could be??? all ideas and help are more than welcome as this was supposed to be a birthday present and that day will be next week ! so i need to hurry a bit


thnx in advance

robbie 6th November, 2002 02:32 AM

trying holding down the insert key when you turn it on. Or do a cmos clear.
Rob

RandyB 6th November, 2002 04:10 AM

You might also try reseating your ram and Vid card if you haven't already. Also check to see that the fsb jumper is set to 100 and not 133 with that Duron. Good luck

loop 6th November, 2002 06:51 PM

my mate had a similiar problem (same board etc etc) he fixed it by a 1 inch dent in the top of his case with his foot, for some reason after that it worked (I'm being serious about this, I was there at the time, it wouldnt boot up, he got pissed off and whacked the case, then it started working fine after that.)

mookydooky 6th November, 2002 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by loop
my mate had a similiar problem (same board etc etc) he fixed it by a 1 inch dent in the top of his case with his foot, for some reason after that it worked (I'm being serious about this, I was there at the time, it wouldnt boot up, he got pissed off and whacked the case, then it started working fine after that.)
Most likely, something wasn't seated well, and the kick probably put it back in place...:D

Staz 6th November, 2002 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by loop
my mate had a similiar problem (same board etc etc) he fixed it by a 1 inch dent in the top of his case with his foot, for some reason after that it worked (I'm being serious about this, I was there at the time, it wouldnt boot up, he got pissed off and whacked the case, then it started working fine after that.)
If you go to Elite Groups (ecs) website, that is actually step 4 in thier trouble shooting guide. Step 5 is to pick up the case over your head and slam it as hard as you can. For step 6 you have to live in a two story building.

Just Kidding
I wouldn't recomend Loop's fix for your system. Check for any jumpers (100/133 FSB) and clear the coms. If that doesn't help try reseating everything.

SteveI 6th November, 2002 07:24 PM

If memory serves me correctly, there are only 2 usable jumpers on this mobo. clear cmos, and some keyboard test on/off jumper.

Since you have changed components since it last worked. try to clear the cmos to start.

Reseat everything.. Just curious, are you running ddr or sdr?You know you can only use 1 type right? Also try moving the stick to the other slot.

Also, what psu are you using? the k7s5a is a bit finnicky and requires a decent psu.

Since your fan is spinning, I don't think it's dead. good luck.

[FuK]poudaman 6th November, 2002 07:54 PM

Hi all!
Thnx for all the posts.!
Unfortunately i tried all the things u mentioned allready. Especially the kickin didn't work ;)
But i do use one sticjk of sd-ram. I tied a 128 mb siemens and a 512 which comes out of a working pc. doesn't matter wgich i use.

Shouldn't that board beep when i power up???? i hear nothing

btw.: i only tried it on a desk....not in the case and without any drives connected

mookydooky 6th November, 2002 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [FuK]poudaman


Shouldn't that board beep when i power up???? i hear nothing

It'll only beep if you have the speaker header connected to a speaker.

[FuK]poudaman 6th November, 2002 08:12 PM

hehe....i have a speaker connected yes. but no beeps

[FuK]poudaman 6th November, 2002 08:15 PM

btw.: some other sign of life. the keyboard leds shine up when poewering up

Uncle Bob 6th November, 2002 08:28 PM

Try removing the power cable, removing CMOS battery, waiting 5 minutes+ and reinstalling them

cloasters 7th November, 2002 05:27 AM

Just out of curiousity, how did you handle the fact that the K7S5A gives you two pins to connect the Power LED connection from the front panel of the case, when every little plug for the Power LED I've ever seen uses a plug with 3 Pins in it? More accurately, there are only 2 Pins in the plug, but the plug has space for 3 Pins.

I was surprised to discover that there are only two pins on the K7S5A. For $54, you can't expect the moon, but two pins must be against the law. Somewhere.

The directions in the K7S5A's manual for connecting the Front Panel LED's... suck. Your problem may be there.

Spode 7th November, 2002 12:51 PM

I found the k7s5a does not like older graphics cards. Wouldn't take any of my Rage cards. Try a different graphics card.

I got round the power led issue with a knife and splut the 3 pin into 2. sorted.

You might also try plugging speakers into the sound card. Sometimes the beep comes out of there instead of the pc speaker. But I think I might auto-detect the speakers. I could be wrong.

If the keyboard Lights blink, I would say the CPU is fine. I really do think this is a graphics card problem. I've dealt with quite afew of these boards.

I found an Elsa TNT2 M64 worked, but ATI Rage Pro 2x and a couple of others didn't. Could be a pre AGP 4x thing.,...

[FuK]poudaman 7th November, 2002 08:16 PM

thought about the agp 4x aswell. but resetting the bios should put it to 2x default shouldn't it?

Aedan 7th November, 2002 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [FuK]poudaman
btw.: some other sign of life. the keyboard leds shine up when poewering up
Most keyboard leds will come on briefly when the keyboard is powered up. That's just the processor in the keyboard getting itself up and running.

That just means that power is getting to the keyboard. :(

AidanII

Spode 8th November, 2002 01:02 AM

I still reckon it's the graphics card...

Aedan 8th November, 2002 10:17 AM

Simple solution for GFX card. Take it out. Start it up without one.

To run the POST, the system needs, CPU, RAM and power, and nothing else. It should at least beep at you if the BIOS can't init the GFX card.

If you still get nothing, then it sounds like the board is dead. If you can get hold of a Port 80 display card, then try using that - that will tell you where the BIOS fails, if it even gets started!

AidanII

cloasters 9th November, 2002 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [FuK]poudaman
thought about the agp 4x aswell. but resetting the bios should put it to 2x default shouldn't it?
Under the "PCI / PLUG AND PLAY SETUP" section of the K7S5A's(at least Rev. 3 of the mobo) BIOS, there's an item: "AGP 4X Control Enable/Disable." This hints that the AGP Bus is set to "2X" by default. After clearing the BIOS, you probably have 2X. And you may well have 2X if this option is set to "Disable."

popcicle 11th November, 2002 09:01 PM

My $ is on the RAM.

Contact the previous owner and find
out exactly what type (brand,etc.)
of memory he was using.

The last K7S5A that I put together
would absolutely not boot with DDR.

Finally, after trying about 6 different
flavors of SDRAM it booted with Corsair.


Pops.


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