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Old 3rd March, 2003, 10:15 PM
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Poor mans radiator box

I decided that the 80mm fan on my radiator wasn't enough, and that I wanted the radiator to NOT be installed inside my case.

I remember reading this:
http://www.spodesabode.com/content/article/trashrad
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and I thought that I could make something somewhat similar.

I found a small card board box and cut holes for a 120mm fan and the puny radiator I have in my case. See the pics how I put it together. One can do _everything_ with zip ties!

This SIMPLE and next to free mod actually shaved off a few temps, and I can now overclock a bit more. (My 1466 Tbred is now running 2125MHz)

I can clearly feel (with my hand) how a lot more air is now coming through the radiator fins. I don't have the specs on this fan as I yanked it out of an ancient IBM server PSU.

I figured I'd better share this with you. Sorry for the crappy pictures, blame it all on Spode!

I hope you get the idea though. I'm quite happy with this mod.

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Another pic, notice the depth of the fan
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A look inside..
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Well done, Allan! A polished mahogany or burnished aluminum box it ain't. Big deal, it works!
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is the box to increase the air flow thru the radiator or an adaptor for the size difference between the fan and the rad??
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That's a good article.

Hmmm... hadn't thought of using a small auto type radiator
for heat transfer before.
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is the box to increase the air flow thru the radiator or an adaptor for the size difference between the fan and the rad??
A little of both, I guess - and a good way to get it outta the case, so it isn't getting hot air.

Any ideas on how to improve it further?
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That's a good article.

Hmmm... hadn't thought of using a small auto type radiator
for heat transfer before.
Whyever not?

Even most "watercooling" radiators are just car heatercores with a splash of paint!

Theres another article on SpodesAbode on how to get a heatercore out of a VW Polo if you are in europe and are interested.
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A little of both, I guess - and a good way to get it outta the case, so it isn't getting hot air.

Any ideas on how to improve it further?
getting it out of the box sounds good to me cooler system temp= higher OC

heres somthing ive thought about every since i heard people are going to the junk yards and getting heater core's and using them for radiators and 20 bucks is about the normal price ...why not use one of these a couple are in the 20$ range

one of them is 4 1/2 x 12" perfict fit for the top of a case
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one of them is 4 1/2 x 12" perfict fit for the top of a case

HORRIBLE HORRIBLE radiators. most heatercores have multiple parrallel tubes inside them, this slows the water through each tube giving it more time to reach a cooler temp, those are a single tube back and forth. They used to be popular a while back, but there are much more effective radiators available.
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these are designed like heater cores i wonder if the BTU rating is similar??

as long as we are on BTU's does any one know how to calculate the BTU out put of a CPU putting out between 80 - 100 watts is there a way to convert that??

and how many BTU's will a gallon of water absorb if the water is at 20C

I'm just trying to get an approximate idea of what kind of flow rate that I'm going to need
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as long as we are on BTU's does any one know how to calculate the BTU out put of a CPU putting out between 80 - 100 watts is there a way to convert that??
1W ~ 0.000949 BTU/s
80W~ 0.0759 BTU/s


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and how many BTU's will a gallon of water absorb if the water is at 20C

I'm just trying to get an approximate idea of what kind of flow rate that I'm going to need
That would be dependent on your flow rate, which you're trying to determine

If you take a look at some kits on sale figures of 5/10 litres per min are the specs used, so this may be where you want to go.

HTH.

PS I'm still air cooling, but have do a bit of research into some WC sets
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