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Old 7th June, 2003, 09:38 PM
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maze 4... all that good???

http://www.dangerden.com/images/MAZE..._478_large.jpg


is it just me or is the water NOT striking the area over the core??? also, there is little turbulence being created.


i reckon this isnt any better than a maze 3



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Old 7th June, 2003, 09:56 PM
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From looking at the design I'm not sure it's getting that much surface exposed to the water myself. I happen to like my Maze 3 personally.

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Old 7th June, 2003, 10:10 PM
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sorry...:nervous:


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I would contest that this is a better design then the older blocks by far. The shallow channels and direct path across the cpu core, combined with a 300 ghp+ pump, would cause the water to go from in to out by the shortest point. Almost like a "mirco channel" design. I would see this benificial on P4, and yet better then the old design on AMD. Im ordering one, will let you know the results.
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Old 7th June, 2003, 10:27 PM
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Looking at it a little closer I wonder if it wouldn't be better for the to have several "fins" across the area where they have the two big chunks of copper right there in the middle. More surface area right above the area that matters most.

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Old 7th June, 2003, 10:28 PM
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yeah, that would work better SM.


spyder, what other blocks u got to compare it with??
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Old 7th June, 2003, 10:31 PM
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like these blocks here SM?  (these are micro channel ones by a OC forums member)

 
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Old 7th June, 2003, 10:32 PM
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yeah, that would work better SM.


spyder, what other blocks u got to compare it with??
Maze 3, Custom S type by J fettig- Custom micro channel- Also have a Dr. SJ beehive- I would have a MCX5000 by swiftech, but they have been VERY rude to me, and i will not buy from them.
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like these blocks here SM?  (these are micro channel ones by a OC forums member)

 
In theory yes. If you could run about 6 micro channels across the center (where my lines are in the example) and keep the overall design I think it would be better. Like I said more surface area where you need it.

I swear if I had the money I would get setup with a metal working shop and try a few things on my own. I would love to try and cut my own design based on SJ's bee hive.
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see, the problem with even doing a few mirco channels ike that is they would be considered ripping of cathers WW and neo mooses microchannel blocks. This design is shaped like a lemon.... lets hope its not as sour.
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they would be considered ripping of cathers WW and neo mooses microchannel blocks



SM: id love to make my own too.
id do 2x in 2x out, two 3/8 jetting in horizontally onto a spikey blob (like a beehive shape) over the core, then going off out the exits. to support 1/2"ID tubes with 2xY fitting

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see, the problem with even doing a few mirco channels ike that is they would be considered ripping of cathers WW and neo mooses microchannel blocks. This design is shaped like a lemon.... lets hope its not as sour.
If this were the case then everyone who makes a finned HSF setup would be ripping off the first person who used the idea.

Those guys run the channels all the way across the surface I just want a couple right above the core.

There are only so many ways to expose the water to a heated surface. :nervous:
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Sm- i have a block designed just like your wanting to see, infact its going to be milled asap! The problem with my block though is the flow pattern- its relativly unique, and should be very intersting to see how it does!
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You'll keep us posted on your progress I'm sure.

Wouldn't it be cool to make a living from something like that.
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Ive meet dano @ dangerden - nice guy- but i dont think this was his full time job...
Gabe on the other hand- it is-
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It looks like they have had to step back from a full on cathar type block as its probably too expensive to mill it.

Dangerden do volume so they need something quick and easy to make and they dont want too many faulty blocks.

I think that design will work ok, but it wont be a great improovment on what they have allready.

It looks like it might be an ok pelt block.
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Old 8th June, 2003, 01:47 AM
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Good point Holst. Pelt Block that is....

I didn't look at it like that.
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Oops, a bit OT.
I wonder if looking at the way Cray's SV1 handles Processing Element cooling(with Florinert, natch). But you'd think that it has to have a relation to water-- would be of any use? Their solution is elegant, and intriguing.
Please see:
www.cray.com/products/systems/sv1 .

Poking around should reveal a video they made about the SV1. It's fascinating.
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cloasters... i dont see anything on there about cooling

but the point about pelts is true, however, the maze3 has water flowing over the whole surface as well, id say it would do more or less as well as the maze4 - except it has one wide channel, so less surface area, but the maze4 has lots of surface area for the whole area.

the maze3 would def. be better than the maze4 without a pelt tho.

shame they dont advertise it like that.
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the maze3 would def. be better than the maze4 without a pelt tho.
Here's some initial results in comparison to the Maze3. Too many possible variables and only one person's experience so there's no way it can be representative, but still interesting.
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