How do u guys chill your water??

jcool · #1 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 01:42 PM

Hey folks,
I noticed that some of you are not just watercooling but chilling the water somehow, whis is, of course, very useful for OCing, especially when it affects not only the CPU, but also the GPU and NB (as it would in my case)
Now, I was wondering, what do you guys use to cool your water down?
I don't necessarily want my water temp to be below ambient temp, but now in summer my water temp is about 10C higher than the ambient temp (because I don't want to use noisy fans), stopping me OCing.
This site seems to have some interesting tools:
http://www.coolworksinc.com/coolproducts.htm
What do you think about that in-line water chiller, is it any good?
I would love to get any information on the use of chilled water in PC watercooling systems from anyone, please share your experiences with me as I'm new on this topic

Well, of course I know that I would have to insulate the whole system if I wanted to get 10C water or soemthing, but I have absolutely no experience with that kind of cooling, I'm willing to try & learn though!

Any help/ideas greatly appreciated!
Thx in advance
jcool

water_cooler20 · #2 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 01:54 PM

i'm building my frist chiller too

If u only want your temp back to normal or atleast at a point were u wouldn't need Insulation I would take your rad and put it in a little frigue.

Now if u want to go w/ a chiller that would bring u below zero then u would need to build a phase change system.What u could do is find a frigue take it apart inside u would find a big black thing follow the tubes on it and take out anything that on the tubes u should find a thing that looks like a alu rad its a evap throw it in a tank of water and then u have chilled water

This guide might help u too http://www.wc101.com/guides/refridgeration/

This guide will show u how to Stop Condensation w/o voiding your stuff
http://www.phase-change.com/index.ph...s&id=25&page=1

tex4 · #3 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by water_cooler20

i'm building my frist chiller too

If u only want your temp back to normal or atleast at a point were u wouldn't need Insulation I would take your rad and put it in a little frigue.

Now if u want to go w/ a chiller that would bring u below zero then u would need to build a phase change system.What u could do is find a frigue take it apart inside u would find a big black thing follow the tubes on it and take out anything that on the tubes u should find a thing that looks like a alu rad its a evap throw it in a tank of water and then u have chilled water

This guide might help u too http://www.wc101.com/guides/refridgeration/

This guide will show u how to Stop Condensation w/o voiding your stuff
http://www.phase-change.com/index.ph...s&id=25&page=1

Your building your first chiller ME TO How far along are you? What are you using?

water_cooler20 · #4 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 02:10 PM

I'm using a water fountain

that I found

spec:
1/6 HP Danfoss commpresor
filled w/ R134a
D-Tek chipset WB
DD GPU R9xxx WB

I'm almost done i just need to fill my sys w/ R134a and buy a D-tek chipset WB

jcool · #5 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 02:22 PM

First of all, thank you watercooler_20!
I think I only want to get my water temps back to ambient so that I don't have to insulate everything.
Of course I could just put one of my rads in a fridge, but problem is, I have everything inside my case and I do want it to stay like that, to keep things mobile, you know

So, is there any way to do that, by using a small in-line waterchiller (where can I get such stuff btw)?
I noticed by now that this coolworks in-line waterchiller is not only way too expensive and powerful, but also much too large! LOL

tex4 · #6 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by water_cooler20

I'm using a water fountain

that I found

spec:
1/6 HP Danfoss commpresor
filled w/ R134a
D-Tek chipset WB
DD GPU R9xxx WB

I'm almost done i just need to fill my sys w/ R134a and buy a D-tek chipset WB

I'm using this comp and condessor home made evap. using r-22 mite have it filled next sat. http://store.bizarresurplus.com/prod...222&1=223&3=64 Then I have alot of work insulating and stuff like that

Áedán · #7 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

I noticed by now that this coolworks in-line waterchiller is not only way too expensive and powerful, but also much too large! LOL

That coolworks inline waterchiller is nothing more than a 48W peltier attached to a heatsink, and a long bit of metal. That's not going to make a big impact on the temperature of your coolant!

I considered doing something similar, but getting hold of parts and refrigerant where I am just isn't easy.

tex4 · #8 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

First of all, thank you watercooler_20!
I think I only want to get my water temps back to ambient so that I don't have to insulate everything.
Of course I could just put one of my rads in a fridge, but problem is, I have everything inside my case and I do want it to stay like that, to keep things mobile, you know

So, is there any way to do that, by using a small in-line waterchiller (where can I get such stuff btw)?
I noticed by now that this coolworks in-line waterchiller is not only way too expensive and powerful, but also much too large! LOL

Try putting your rad in a bucket or some thing like that with water. You can always throw ice in and play.

jcool · #9 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Áedán

That coolworks inline waterchiller is nothing more than a 48W peltier attached to a heatsink, and a long bit of metal. That's not going to make a big impact on the temperature of your coolant!

I considered doing something similar, but getting hold of parts and refrigerant where I am just isn't easy.

lol, at first I considered using a peltier to cool the water myself, but I was thinking about some >80W thing

Okay so you think it won't be easy to realize that...
Theres nothing made for that purpose is there...
Well, I think I'll just look for the smallest refrigerator I can find and get to work a bit on it

Plz keep me informed on your doings guys and if anyone has another idea, feel free to post (even if u think its to ill even to consider it

)

jcool · #10 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tex4

Try putting your rad in a bucket or some thing like that with water. You can always throw ice in and play.

No thanks, I'd rather keep my 2 rads nice and dry

Great idea to experiment though

But I want something permanent & reliable

chris4521 · #11 (**permalink**) 8th July, 2003, 09:36 PM

im working on my waterchiller right now from a dehumidifier and a large igloo cooler.
im going to have the evaporator coils submerged in coolant inside the cooler to chill the water. pretty simple.however im expecting it to be quite loud and a large power draw--the dehumidifier i have is pretty old.

jcool · #12 (**permalink**) 9th July, 2003, 05:38 AM

Interesting solution...
But probably too loud and too large for me...

tex4 · #13 (**permalink**) 10th July, 2003, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris4521

im working on my waterchiller right now from a dehumidifier and a large igloo cooler.
im going to have the evaporator coils submerged in coolant inside the cooler to chill the water. pretty simple.however im expecting it to be quite loud and a large power draw--the dehumidifier i have is pretty old.

I use a igloo also does your's say industrial 5-gal. drinking water ha ha

jcool · #14 (**permalink**) 10th July, 2003, 05:22 PM

Damnit, the smallest coolbox I could find was 30x20x20...
I could only fit one with max. 30x17x16...
Shame I only have a Medium ATX Tower, kinda' narrow in there

surlyjoe · #15 (**permalink**) 10th July, 2003, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Damnit, the smallest coolbox I could find was 30x20x20...
I could only fit one with max. 30x17x16...
Shame I only have a Medium ATX Tower, kinda' narrow in there

mmmmm. igloo....

chris4521 · #16 (**permalink**) 10th July, 2003, 10:12 PM

nice setup surly, mine's going to be very similar to that (except it's a non-name cooler which im going to insulate properly.
got the chipset waterblock today and my temps went up 3degrees ! :< need that chiller!

surlyjoe · #17 (**permalink**) 12th July, 2003, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4521

nice setup surly, mine's going to be very similar to that (except it's a non-name cooler which im going to insulate properly.
got the chipset waterblock today and my temps went up 3degrees ! :< need that chiller!

thanx dood! its been workin extra hard in thia 100f plus heat

MasterAtArms · #18 (**permalink**) 14th July, 2003, 09:18 PM

http://www.procooling.com/articles/h...ng_-_the_f.php

The next thing in waterchilling.

I recommend a bypass of the northblock, a parellel tube with no restrictions just joined before and after the nb with y-splitters, and 3/4" tubing is nice too.

I got fed up with pelts when I found them unreliable. I made one condensation proofing mistake and I think you only need to make one. I rekon I know how its done now but the PSU I got was unreliable for the ampage required for TECs, so I don't fancy it anymore. Its a lot of hassle to setup the neoprene, and I hated seeing people with aircooling beating my pelt setup for cpu speed.

surlyjoe · #19 (**permalink**) 15th July, 2003, 01:14 AM

thats a sweet unit! I havent seen that particular type before.

jcool · #20 (**permalink**) 15th July, 2003, 04:51 PM

Cool!
But a bit too extreme for me...
I don't have much time atm because of some imminent (school-)projects but in a few days I'll probably look for a small refrigerator

I can't stand 40C water, now really!

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