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Old 7th August, 2003, 03:58 PM
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Which sensor's which? Your original explanation stated you had 3 probes: one on your HD, one at the back of the case and one by the CPU core/die/whatever you want to call it.

Is this in fact the order
Sensor 1 = CPU core/die
Sensor 2 = case back
Sensor 3 = hard drive casing.

My logic in assuming this is this: your CPU will always be the hottest thing in the case. Your HD WILL be hotter than the room. Your under-chip thermistor is not reported on this readout. If I have the wrong sensor assigned to the wrong component, then let me know.

Based on that assumption, then the temperature delta of your CPU compared to ambient is in fact the average of Sensor 2's reading subtracted from Sensor 1's reading. Which is 30ÂșC.

However, if you've got a room temperature monitored by sensor 3, then I'm very interested to find out just what's being monitored by sensor 2. It would seem to be below ambient temperature... your beer perhaps?

EDIT!!!: Very embarrassing, I got my 2s and 3s mixed up. It should now make sense
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Old 7th August, 2003, 06:01 PM
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battle someone else my friend.. this is quite old..
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Phiphen, I really believe that Kaitain is only trying to help you better understand what your senors are telling you. K's background is scientific and therefore tends to be objective and precise.

The simple truth is that he's trying to make sense of your data so that you might better understand. Not fighting you, but trying to help you to the next level.

It's obvious that you've put in a good deal of time money and effort into your setup. Kaitain is only trying to help you make the most of your data.

K. is all about trying to understand and helping others to do so as well.

It's my view that K sees., as many reading this, no doubt see as well, that your trying to understand. Trust K. a bit longer, just this once... and see if he can show you something new; as he has helped and aided me and this forums members so many times in the past.

This takes a special kind of effort. One that is humble and keen to learn. But also one that can trust a bit and does not care WHO is right...only WHAT is right and true.

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where my pc pic's for BUMPAGE!!!! damn.
Please post, please Sounds like quite a convoluted loop, although your initial results sound impressive

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battle someone else my friend.. this is quite old..
Battle? No, your system's intruiging me. So which sensor was which, then? This is gonna bug me for ages now
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I'll have to get onto NTL today and get my FTP space details, i also need to get my mate to bring his digital camera round, i'll see if he can do it tonight, my rig deserves documenting >
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bah.. I gave my data... I got nothing but b.s. and resent... as if I understand this world less than some... 1=underneith chip 2=not sure/possible delta 3=ambient temp... =(
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NO ONE gave you any B.S.
We have done our best to make our good intentions clear. Members have asked for hard data to enable them to understand what's going on with your system.

They did so in order to help you. Understand that much and you will find a way to properly understand and use the help they have to offered.
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ya.. kinda looks like that... sorry folks.. I misread kai's FIRST response to my 'claims'... sounds like good intension that I took the wrong way.. and made a fool of myself =(... gj kaitain sorry for the disrespect....

I doubt I have ANYTHING that's calibrated.. I knew that coming into this board... I didn't realise he said that... how lame is that.. I misinformed myself AND ended up TOTALLY agreeing with kai...
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If it makes you feel any better, I got lost half-way through as well! And I started this thread. My head hurts!

ANYWAY..... Going back to the ORIGINAL question, any more thoughts about it???

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ya.. kinda looks like that... sorry folks.. I misread kai's FIRST response to my 'claims'... sounds like good intension that I took the wrong way.. and made a fool of myself =(... gj kaitain sorry for the disrespect....

I doubt I have ANYTHING that's calibrated.. I knew that coming into this board... I didn't realise he said that... how lame is that.. I misinformed myself AND ended up TOTALLY agreeing with kai...
If I only had a penny for every time I mistook an offer to help by another for a confrontation!! ":O}

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1=underneith chip 2=not sure/possible delta 3=ambient temp... =(
Sensor 3's ambient temp? Forgive me for keeping on about this, but where sensor 2's reading only about 20C, I can't help wondering what it's reading. I would normally expect the lowest temperature to be ambient, unless you've got a heat-pumped system (peltier or fridge). Or has this already been noticed and commented on? I've lost the plot for today...

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ya.. kinda looks like that... sorry folks.. I misread kai's FIRST response to my 'claims'... sounds like good intension that I took the wrong way.. and made a fool of myself =(... gj kaitain sorry for the disrespect....

I doubt I have ANYTHING that's calibrated.. I knew that coming into this board... I didn't realise he said that... how lame is that.. I misinformed myself AND ended up TOTALLY agreeing with kai...
Hehe, apologies in return - my query was written in a less than elegant way, I'll admit; I'm not at all surprised you got annoyed by it. Anyway, done and dusted. Who's for a ?
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If it makes you feel any better, I got lost half-way through as well! And I started this thread. My head hurts!

ANYWAY..... Going back to the ORIGINAL question, any more thoughts about it???

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Back to the original question? Get the system you specified. Personally, I like the quality of Dangerden's stuff (it's really quite good, I use a Maze-4 myself). The only drawback is that I somehow (word to the wise: DO NOT start adding coolant to your system at 3:30 a.m.) managed to mix my coolant in our Kool-Aid pitcher, and then spill half of it on my carpet. Great, huh?
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lol.. that sounds like me.. tinkering in the middle of the night.. THEN make a HUGE mistake.. and regret it after a mournings sleep..
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lol.. that sounds like me.. tinkering in the middle of the night.. THEN make a HUGE mistake.. and regret it after a mournings sleep..
Sometimes I wake up with a development kernel installed, and I can't remember how it got there.
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