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Old 23rd August, 2003, 07:30 PM
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about water cooling

ok i am gonna water cool with the exo and i am gonna cool my cpu and north bridge but i was wundering should i leave in a couple fans to cool everything ellse or should i get a water block for my ram,hdd,so forth....







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I have water/pelt cooled my cpu and have an open case with only 2 7v 80mm fans in the psu and 1 7v fan blowing over the hard drives, everything else is passively cooled. I used to have GFX card and the north bridge water cooled as well, but the effort and hastle of removing it all when you want to get in and around you pc (allot for me) is a bit too much. As long as things arn't getting too hot you'll be ok, if you need a fan then get some quiet fans on 7v to make them totally silent.
For the extra effort, tubing, complexity, performance benifits and cost you can eaily get away without any aditional cooling or noise.
Depents what you goals are and what your budget and patience can put up with. but you dont have to water cool everything for silence.
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You still have to cool all your HDDs and DVD/CDRW drives especially, and ancilliary components such as the power regulation circuitry. Even if you only have a couple of low-rev 60mm fans in your case, keeping some air moving is vital.
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cooling cd rom drives? do you use your cd or dvd drive 24 hours a day? are you mad?
I leave my case side open and let convection do its thing.
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cooling cd rom drives? do you use your cd or dvd drive 24 hours a day? are you mad?
I leave my case side open and let convection do its thing.
I still run my case fans. I'll 7V them when I'm bored one day I suppose. The noise is really low on them so I don't really mind. Without circulation the inside of your case would become a thermal bath unless your running an open system.
You don't want too many blocks or you'll kill the flow in your loop thus degrading it's ability to cool. HDs are fine on air if anything. WC'ing RAM is also excesive even with a 3.2 Vmod. Besides you'd have to build custom blocks. I'd put some heatsinks on the mosfets myself. For a kit like the Exos I'd only watercool the CPU to get the best results out of it. You would be better off with a Corsair Hydrocool if your set on getting a kit:
http://www.overclockers.com/articles746/
Sites like D-Tek and Danger Den allow you to piece a kit together too. I put mine together for around $250 from here and there.
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cooling cd rom drives? do you use your cd or dvd drive 24 hours a day? are you mad?
I leave my case side open and let convection do its thing.
CD and DVD writers can generate a fair level of heat when they're actually writing.

In terms of hard disks, none of my hard disks will survive if they're just convection cooled. They all require some level of forced cooling whilst spinning, or they will exceed 60C. Hence, I still have a couple of fans running at reduced speed in my system, *and* have the side on. Removing the side disrupts the airflow through the machine, and causes things to overheat.
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thx guys i guess i aint goin with the exo.... i realy thought i had a good kit there from what i had read it was not shaby but.... i guess i will go with the hydro cool
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wait is the hydro cool and external resiviour it looks like it is but i am not taking any chances.
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The Hydrocool is external. Before you jump on it see what it would cost you to piece it together. D-Tek and DD have kits if you're not comfortable buying the pieces. If you need any help I or somone here will be more than happy to help you out.
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well... i am looking for a very good water cooling solution that is external and will only make me buy a few to no parts around 250-275(there abouts) and it needs to be external beacause i dont have a huge amount of room left in my case..... so if any of u have an suggestions i am all ears
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Well here's a DIY spec
CPU WB: http://www.dtekcustoms.com/product.asp?3=108
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http://www.dangerden.com/mall/blocks/maze4.asp
Radiator: http://www.dtekcustoms.com/product.asp?0=205&1=228&3=20
Res: http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Misc_Hardware/tubing.asp
Tubing: 15/20' of clearflex~$24.00
Pump: Danner#3=$40 at petsmart.
But a tote and some clamps and you'll be good to go.
Kit wise you can custom build one here:
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/kits.asp
Here's some straight kits:
http://www.xoxide.com/aswacpucokit.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/fro...nu_search.html
I would highly recomend the DIY using the White Water. It would be in the $230/250 range and give you the best results. When you buy a kit you still have to put it all together. They charge for that convience and don't offer the same flexiability. When I first got bit by the water bug I wanted an Exos that an Inovatex. Than I saw the Whitewater and Cascade. I could never find a kit that offered what I wanted completely or that performed as well as a custom for the same price. So I went DIY as I usually do on everything so it suits my needs to a T.
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ok could u give me an exact list of every part i should get for a kick ass setup (external) sry bout being so newbish but i have never done this before and i am realy scared
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First start with some research. This is a great site and there are alot of others. I'm not sure if I'm aloud to link other sites here or not but these are ones that have helped me alot and should help others as well:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/index.php?
http://www.water-cooling.com/
http://www.liquidninjas.com/index.php
http://www.wc101.com/
You need to register to read here but it's worth it
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/index.php?s=
As for a parts list you can look at what I used on the thread I posted here and Dinos guide.
Above your post I listed the specs for a DIY (Do It Yourself). I'll break it down a bit:
CPU Block: D-Tek White Water=$70
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/product.asp?3=108
Alternatives would be Cascade($100) Maze4($45)
The White water would be your best choice as the cade has a wait list.
Pump: Danner Mag #3=$45
http://www.petsmart.com/fish/shoppin...ct%5F770.shtml
If you use the YellowPages and look under pets you can find many great pumps at local fish stores. That's what I did. They usually have a wide selection.
Radiator: ProCore Combo=$55
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/product.asp?0=205&1=228&3=20
Tubing: 1/2" Clearflex=$25 for 20'
Reservoir:$30 Pick 1.
Clamps: get like 15 1/2" clamps. I used metal hose clamps but the nylon ones work just as well.
Fans: you'll need 2 120mm low RPM fans. One for the radiator and one for the back of your box. D-Tek and DD both sell them.
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/store.asp
http://www.dangerden.com/welcome.htm
You will need to drill 2 holes into the back of you case. The easiest way to do this is to buy a 1/2" holesaw for like $3.00. Just make sure your MB is out before you do it and that you remove any shards. Use 2 rubber grommets in the holes and it looks like a pro did it. Read up on the sites I listed. OCA has a great tutorial on setting it up under Extreme Cooling/Collective stickey. If you have more questions feel free to post them here or send me a PM. I'll help you out as much as I can as will many others on your effort to go H20.
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Here's another great guide I just saw
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=226567
Hope all of this helps
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aquarius II liquid cooling ..

Hi ,

I dont see any comments about the Thermaltake Aquarius II ..for a noob to watercooling like me , it seemed after reading reviews that installation was easy , only the reservoir was external and cost wise was ok ..£63.52 incl postage..and no drilling holes in the chassis required. Got the pack today and ..the coolant bottle had leaked internally ! Boo Hoo ! Have to return it to Dabs then take it from there. 29 dba seems quiet and I`m not looking for extreme cooling with it , just quiet and efficient. The cpu block tho needs more machining/sanding , reckon I`ll lap it prior to install.

Any experience on here with the thermaltake system ?

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I had one on review for another site. The pump failed after 15 hours continuous operation, and its performance was somewhat worse than a stock AMD air cooler. Lemon.
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i look at all those kits and the skinny little pipes and waterblocks they use and just cringe, it may cost about £5 more but you realy want nice fat half inch tubing and barbs. I'd recomend reading some reviews and buying the parts seperate so you can get the best for your money, with watercooling you need to do it right first time, mistakes can be unforgiving.
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shoulda done my research ....

Hi ,

Well having scoured a lot of reviews, I agree with your views on the Aquarius 2 . Koolance Exos looks a lot better , maybe pricey but seems an effective package . Cant seem to find a UK seller , but Ebay have a few listed for £111 from the states ( plus postage) . Still thinking about it .....

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Hi ,

Well having scoured a lot of reviews, I agree with your views on the Aquarius 2 . Koolance Exos looks a lot better , maybe pricey but seems an effective package . Cant seem to find a UK seller , but Ebay have a few listed for £111 from the states ( plus postage) . Still thinking about it .....

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Have you tried here?
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/
I'd look at a Swift tech kit mabey cause it's 1/2"
or the Water chills.
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mucha moolah..

Hi ,

Yikes £148 for a decent WC setup from that site ! Bit expensive for me ..especially when I`ve just ordered an NF-7S to prove that my OC block is my 8rda3+ !

I`ll keep searching tho ...
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