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View Poll Results: What size tubing sould I use?
All 3/4" 1 11.11%
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Old 29th May, 2002, 02:44 AM
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Don't read this yet please, I'm testing a theory about the forums....

Sucker!!! Made ya look! Now, I'm getting an Eheim 1250 pump, I've already got the Swiftech MCW462-U waterblock. The input and output holes in the block are 3/8", the input for the pump is 3/4" and the output is 1/2". I haven't chosen a radiator yet so the dimensions of the connectors for that are still flexible. My question is: What's the best tubing to go with and why?
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I just could not help myself............. :-P Ok- heres what you do-------- 1/2 on pump/rad and make 1/2 to 3/8 convertes on the block- 1/2= more flow!!!!!!!!!11
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Re: Don't read this yet please, I'm testing a theory about the forums....

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Sucker!!! Made ya look! Now, I'm getting an Eheim 1250 pump, I've already got the Swiftech MCW462-U waterblock. The input and output holes in the block are 3/8", the input for the pump is 3/4" and the output is 1/2". I haven't chosen a radiator yet so the dimensions of the connectors for that are still flexible. My question is: What's the best tubing to go with and why?

well 3/4" will give you a higher flow capacity than 1/2", but that's not really important


with the MCW462-U you can actually use 3/8" or 1/2", with 1/2" you shove it over the entire connector and jubilee clip it on.


I'd say you'd probably have some problems getting 3/4" stuff on the 462, so as 1/2" is compatable with both to an extent, go with that!
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Old 29th May, 2002, 03:52 AM
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with the MCW462-U you can actually use 3/8" or 1/2", with 1/2" you shove it over the entire connector and jubilee clip it on.
Actually I didn't get any connectors with the block. The paperwork says to just jam the 3/8" hose in tighter'n hell an that'll be good enough. Sould I get some connectors to go right into the block or should I get a small length of 3/8", jam it in like the instructions say, and then have a 3/8" to 1/2" adapter about an inch outside the block on both the intake and out take? And where should I go for fittings? Should I be taking a serious look at the stuff available at places like Home Deopt or should I go with an online watercooling site?
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Old 29th May, 2002, 03:53 AM
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Here's some examples, i'm fairly sure this is the same block

apologies for the poor sharpness but i'm lazy
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2nd one, both these have just been forced over connector


note: they are watertight to a small amount of pressure but I wouldn't really recommend leaving them like that
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And secured (and a slightly better pic!)
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And the 2nd angle of the secured one
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btw that's 1/2" hose, lemme get some of random's 3/8" stuff and take a pic



edit: bah, it looks like it's more 1/2", sorry, got no 3/8".. but if you want to use that, you just cut it straight, make sure that ring things out, and push till it secures
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Here's some examples, i'm fairly sure this is the same block
Actually I have the new version, a redesigned outer shell, made to make sure it clear capacitors on the motherboard. But the top side is the same. Where'd you get those connectors? And what if anything did you have to do to make sure they interface with the block water-proofidly? Did you wrap them with that white seal-tape stuff or just pop them in the holes?
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Old 29th May, 2002, 04:16 AM
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Actually I have the new version, a redesigned outer shell, made to make sure it clear capacitors on the motherboard. But the top side is the same. Where'd you get those connectors? And what if anything did you have to do to make sure they interface with the block water-proofidly? Did you wrap them with that white seal-tape stuff or just pop them in the holes?
Damn you I wanted that new version

The connectors are the stock ones, the "white seal tape" stuff you're probably talking about is PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene.. god knows how i remembered that) which is incredibly smooth stuff, used in plumbing to ensure good fits etc, and hell we used it when we secured some CCTV domes


but no, those are stock connectors. The 2 things over them are Jubilee clips, 1/4" - 3/4" variety
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Old 29th May, 2002, 04:23 AM
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Damn you I wanted that new version
Then you should have tried to win Betty's contest. Since you obviously know what your own components look like up close do you know if connectors from a different source (like a hardware store) would be good enough or do you think I have to order the same ones as you have from Swiftech?
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Old 29th May, 2002, 04:28 AM
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Then you should have tried to win Betty's contest. Since you obviously know what your own components look like up close do you know if connectors from a different source (like a hardware store) would be good enough or do you think I have to order the same ones as you have from Swiftech?
Woah a second, you havent even shown me a picture of your connectors? what's to say we cant mod them?


I've never taken the connectors off, and to be honest, I dont want to possibly ruin this block to do so, but from what I can see, it looks like a right angled 3/8" quick release connector with a form of slip ring (to let it rotate) which has been screwed onto a small amount of deep threaded 3/8" pipe.. infact screw it i'll take it off now and have a look, it looks screwed in plainly with some PTFE btw


Take a pic of yours if you can, and i'll show you one of the ways to mod yours if you dont wanna change the connectors
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Old 29th May, 2002, 04:32 AM
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Right, try as I did, I can't even get the connector to move at all, and i'm lacking in a bench vice so that's out of the question, i'm just gonna go find my connectors now to show you a way to mod some 3/8" piping
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Grrr cant find connectors either, I swear this place is a tip



anyway what I was looking for was a 2" long 1/2" diameter straight join connector which is basically a 2" long bit of plastic with grooves which mirror each other, so you push 1/2" pipe securely (the grooves make it tight as hell) to the middle on both sides


now what you /could/ (possibly), maybe do, is push 1/2" pipe to the middle on one side, then force 3/8" as far up as it will go (they're slightly tapered) then jubilee clip it on

they may well do 3/8" to 1/2" straight joins, but i've not seen any, they'll exist somewhere though
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Here's what I've got (it's not actually mine, I just took a shot from the Swiftech site) It shows all the connectors that came with my block (in other words NONE). I'm just wondering if any old generic 90 degree connectors from my localhard ware store will plug in in a leak proof manner or should I get some specially designed ones from Swiftech?
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Here's what I've got (it's not actually mine, I just took a shot from the Swiftech site) It shows all the connectors that came with my block (in other words NONE). I'm just wondering if any old generic 90 degree connectors from my localhard ware store will plug in in a leak proof manner or should I get some specially designed ones from Swiftech?
ooh deary me! I must admit I never saw that pic


ok, 3/8" pipe will fit in there, and securely, it'll most probably be water tight, and getting hold of some 3/8" alu/copper pipe is a bit tricky but not impossible i'd guess (9.525mm?)

You'd then want either to try and jubilee clip a 1/2" pipe on, get an adaptor (never used one, so pass) or, use the other method of 3/8" pipe > straight connector > 1/2" pipe


I doubt they're removable easily, but if they are it won't really herald any huge improvement as you could just jam some 3/8" pipe in there anyway and it'd be watertight (it'll use a gripping ring, rubber or some similar form probably)
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When you say 3/8" pipe do you mean 3/8" flexible tubing or real, solid, copper pipe?
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Aha i'm such an idiot, I have used this stuff before.


I think if you wish to use 1/2" tubing this method may work:


Get yourself a small length of 3/8" copper tube (I've never worked with anything else)
Get a 3/8" straight coupling, without a stop if possible, you can find them at http://www.plumbingsupply.com/copper.html
Solder the 3/8" pipe to the coupling, then force the 1/2" over the coupling and clip on.


That's assuming the coupling will be more than 1/2" in diameter, the sutff we've used is probably JUST 1/2", so the alternative is:


Get a reducing coupling (1/2" to 3/8") and a small length of 1/2" copper pipe aswell

Solder the 3/8" to the coupling, and the 1/2" to the coupling, then force (it will be a force job) the 1/2" pipe over the pipe and clip





You've still got the old option of modifying at the pump end, but it's much the same job.


I'd be willing to sort all this out for you and test it if you want me to? It cant cost much, i'll take a trip down to the plumbing place near me tomorrow to check out prices and maybe pick up the kit, I havent got a blowtorch and any 1mm solder here though unfortunately
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When you say 3/8" pipe do you mean 3/8" flexible tubing or real, solid, copper pipe?
I meant pipe
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