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Old 10th April, 2002, 12:13 AM
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Hardrive crashed!! I blame....

My Western Digital 40g caviar bit the dust this morning. Turned on my system and this loud scratching came from inside my hardrive. All my data, GONE!! I believe partial blame has to go to EPOX.

I believe my Epox 8kha+ had something to do with this.
I'm getting sick and tired of these soft reboots. I don't know why Epox cannot resolve this problem. U think pressing the reset button like a million times won't affect your drive? Well it does. If they can't solve the problem I suggest they recall this motherboard and replace it with something that works!! I got a stupid K sticker on my bios and I here these really SUCK!! No matter how many times I update the bios this thing still happens.

Lucky for me my drive is still under warranty. In the mean time I went out and bought a new maxtor 60gig drive. I never had a problem with a Maxtor drive.

EPOX DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BIOS CHIP CRAP!!

I'm sorry but I'm really ANGRY!!
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Old 10th April, 2002, 12:19 AM
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Don't blame Epox, blame Via. My friend spent a lot of time trying to fix a similar problem. On multiple systems he couldn't get WD hard drives to work with VIA KT266A chipset. Some random reboots and BSOD.... He never found a fix...
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Old 10th April, 2002, 12:31 AM
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I'm never gonna buy a Western Digital drive ever again.
Ok, I stand corrected I blame both VIA and EPOX!!
How in the h_ll can they put out a product that causes these problems?? I'm gonna RMA this mobo as soon as I can. I want a replacement.
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Old 10th April, 2002, 12:38 AM
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He said he had the problem only with KT266A, but on other chipsets, the hard drive performed really well...
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Maybe you should try the KT333 chipset.
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Old 10th April, 2002, 01:17 AM
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The reason I said I'm never gonna buy a western digital drive again is because I also had random reboots when I was using win2k. I was using an older Asus K7V mobo. I have heard alot of bad things about wd caviar models. This was my 1st wd drive and my last.

I'm hoping I can get the new 8k3a+ but I doubt these guys from motherboards.com will exchange it. They did offer me an exchange.
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Old 10th April, 2002, 01:20 AM
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How in the h_ll can they put out a product that causes these problems??
I believe they follow the IBM buisness model.
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Maybe you should try the KT333 chipset.
ew... I dunno if that's really an answer...

That isn't your "final answer" is it Mike???
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Re: Hardrive crashed!! I blame....

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My Western Digital 40g caviar bit the dust this morning. Turned on my system and this loud scratching came from inside my hardrive. All my data, GONE!! I believe partial blame has to go to EPOX.

I believe my Epox 8kha+ had something to do with this.
I'm getting sick and tired of these soft reboots. I don't know why Epox cannot resolve this problem. U think pressing the reset button like a million times won't affect your drive? Well it does
Given that the hard disk should be designed to withstand having the PC reset, it's rather difficult to blame the motherboard for killing your hard disk...

Couple that with the fact that your hard disk suffered from a headcrash, rather than data corruption, points the blame in one of two places. It's either squarely at the Western Digital mechanics, or it's squarely at whoever handled the drive badly.

Basically a head crash is a mechanical failure. If you had a head crash on start up, then it sounds like the drive either failed to park the heads, engaged the heads too early on the platter (before it spun up), or worse still, shot the heads over the end of the platter.

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Old 13th April, 2002, 01:57 AM
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Epox makes damn fine board. I used to really talk trash about them, but I have two now, and believe it or not, I have NEVER seen a BSOD on them, and I only reeboot them when windows is hogging all the memory.

Compared to my Gigacrap GA-7DX, they are incredible. (The GA-7DX is a crap hybrid AMD 761/Via chipset.)
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Old 13th April, 2002, 02:39 PM
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I already rma the wd hardrive back. I'm expecting an exchange by next week. Warranty expires in 2003.
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ALso had a problem with my Western Digital drive that was attached to my EPOX 8KHA+

IMHO, Maxtors are the best
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After 2 weeks with my new maxtor hardrive I'm experiencing less soft rebooting problems. Even though it still occurs, everything seems to be under control. I haven't had to press my reset button multiple times like I use too. Maxtor drives are a heck of alot better than wd drives.
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Nobody bad mouth Maxtor, I got a call today from UPS confirming they dropped off my RMA at Maxtor's Toronto area location today and I don't want anything to jinx the smooth replacement of that drive with a 100% functional replacement. (Which I'm then selling to a friend for $100!!!!! Happy me! )
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Every time I have RMA'd a maxtor drive, I got a larger drive back. They take FOREVER to send your drive back, though.
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We talking weeks or months here?
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We talking weeks or months here?
If you have a credit card, WD will cross ship, but you have to ask them to. Perhaps others HD manufs. will too.
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my WD has been working since last year 24/7 use...
ive used it with KT133A and KT266A i get some random lockups...
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About two weeks in their hands last time. It's been as quick as a week, and as long as a month. As I said before, though. I have NEVER gotten back the same size drive I sent in. Always one step higher.
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