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Old 3rd September, 2009, 08:54 PM
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Awaiting terminal freeze up.

With 8% free space left on my C drive it's only a matter of time. Dun, dun, duhn. I haven't reinstalled XP for about four years. Hope I still remember how to!
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Old 4th September, 2009, 02:45 AM
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Why do you need to reinstall?
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Have you already deleted all of the hotfix and service pack uninstalls from your Windows folder?

You have to have Explorer configured to show protected system files before you can see them, but pretty much any of the files that start with $NTUninstall* can be deleted, and that can free a substantial amount of room on your system drive.
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Old 22nd October, 2009, 08:09 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions, I bit the bullet and wiped then reinstalled everything. Machine seems to run faster, no mystery there.
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Have you already deleted all of the hotfix and service pack uninstalls from your Windows folder?

You have to have Explorer configured to show protected system files before you can see them, but pretty much any of the files that start with $NTUninstall* can be deleted, and that can free a substantial amount of room on your system drive.
Yeah, delete those. Stop windows update service, clear everything out of %systemroot%\Softwaredistribution\Download folder, turn off system restore, disable page file, clear out any temp folders @ %userprofile%\locals~1\Temp and %systemroot%\Temp

If you have an i386 folder that could be deleted as well. I've gotten good at nuking anything possible, prior to creating images. No need to make a 5Gb image if I can make it a 3Gb image.

Edit. And make sure hibernation is turned of as well.
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Old 27th July, 2010, 05:51 AM
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Awaiting terminal freeze up.

The cause of the freezing, or locking up, of your computer, is due to some either corrupted or missing files. And more specifically, missing or corrupted registry files. These are the files which tell everything on your how it is suppose to work. Basically, they are configuration files. And if these files get corrupted, or messed up, it can wreck havoc.

Sometimes the registry files end up missing. This can happen when you uninstall software from your computer. The software being uninstalled may remove registry files also associated with another program. There should be a message asking you whether or not you want to delete the files as they are associated with another program. Your best bet is to say NO to this and leave the files. If the files end up missing, then the program which needs them will stall, hang, or freeze the next time it tries to run. But there is a simple way to fix this.

By just running registry scan software on your computer, you can find these problems and fix them right away. It will let you know which files are bad, and will fix them to its original state. And it is this simple step which will show you how to fix your computer freezing.
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The cause of the freezing, or locking up, of your computer, is due to some either corrupted or missing files. And more specifically, missing or corrupted registry files. These are the files which tell everything on your how it is suppose to work. Basically, they are configuration files. And if these files get corrupted, or messed up, it can wreck havoc.

Sometimes the registry files end up missing. This can happen when you uninstall software from your computer. The software being uninstalled may remove registry files also associated with another program. There should be a message asking you whether or not you want to delete the files as they are associated with another program. Your best bet is to say NO to this and leave the files. If the files end up missing, then the program which needs them will stall, hang, or freeze the next time it tries to run. But there is a simple way to fix this.

By just running registry scan software on your computer, you can find these problems and fix them right away. It will let you know which files are bad, and will fix them to its original state. And it is this simple step which will show you how to fix your computer freezing.
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The cause of the freezing, or locking up, of your computer, is due to some either corrupted or missing files. And more specifically, missing or corrupted registry files. These are the files which tell everything on your how it is suppose to work. Basically, they are configuration files. And if these files get corrupted, or messed up, it can wreck havoc.

Sometimes the registry files end up missing. This can happen when you uninstall software from your computer. The software being uninstalled may remove registry files also associated with another program. There should be a message asking you whether or not you want to delete the files as they are associated with another program. Your best bet is to say NO to this and leave the files. If the files end up missing, then the program which needs them will stall, hang, or freeze the next time it tries to run. But there is a simple way to fix this.

By just running registry scan software on your computer, you can find these problems and fix them right away. It will let you know which files are bad, and will fix them to its original state. And it is this simple step which will show you how to fix your computer freezing.
I always thought those warnings were about a file type that is associated with that specific program. If you delete the program (say, Adobe Reader) then that file type will not open anymore. Like a PDF.
Or a PSD if you uninstall Photoshop.
I never thought about a registry file. So if an uninstall deletes a .bat file or .dat file, then it may be needed for a different program?
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I always thought those warnings were about a file type that is associated with that specific program. If you delete the program (say, Adobe Reader) then that file type will not open anymore. Like a PDF.
Or a PSD if you uninstall Photoshop.
I never thought about a registry file. So if an uninstall deletes a .bat file or .dat file, then it may be needed for a different program?
A program install/uninstall will NOT delete a registry 'file', as those are under the control of the operating system and are in use as long as the system is running. In addition, any application that even ATTEMPTS to delete a registry file is badly misbehaved, if not outright dangerous (i.e. malware).

It IS possible, however, that an application can delete registry entries that are used by another application. A good example of this is the case sited above, where an application registers a file type.

If an application registers as the preferred application for opening, say, '.pdf' files, then from that point on, that application will be used by windows to open that file type. If at some subsequent point that application is uninstalled, the association for '.pdf' files will be broken, and clicking on one will result in Windows asking you what to do with it.

Note that for something like '.pdf' this isn't a problem, since that is a proprietary file type that is only used by adobe, so uninstalling adobe and then clicking on '.pdf' files results in behavior that is reasonably expected.

What happens if you install a WAV player, though? Remember, Windows comes with Windows Media Player, which already is registered to handle '.wav' files. If you install another application, say BlueWave, to play '.wav' files, it will (probably) register itself as the preferred application for the '.wav' file type. So far all is well and good. However, if you then uninstall BlueWave, the file assocation for '.wav' files will be broken, and now not only will you not be able to click on a '.wav' file and have it open in BlueWave (which is expected) but you won't be able to click on a '.wav' file and have it open in Windows Media Player EITHER (probably not what you expected, or wanted).

To fix this, you can usually simply run the application that you want to have handle the files in question, and it will either detect that it is no longer the default application for that file type and ask if you want to reregister, or there will be a menu option somewhere allowing you to register it as the default handler.

Does that make things a little clearer for you, Booman?

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Old 10th August, 2010, 08:31 PM
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Thank you for the assistance, one and all! The machine that was running out of disc space is history. Hopefully I won't run in to that problem again for many moons.
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I always thought uninstalling a program would remove entries/values in the registry for that program. So you are saying the registries are still there?
Say a game, when I remove Battlefield 2, I always thought the registry would be cleared of BF2 entries/folders etc.
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A well-behaved program should remove its registry entries. Unfortunately, the reality is the the install/uninstall program can only remove the registry entries it knows about. Quite frequently, the installer is written by a completely different developer than the application, and the application develop frequently makes changes to the application to add new registry entries (or delete old ones) without notifying the installer developer. This is due to many factors, including the fact that the installer developer may have moved on to other projects/companies, or the application developer may not even consider the fact that the installer needs to be updated. In addition, there may be a conscious decision on the part of the developer not to remove certain user-specific application registry information so that if a user uninstalls and then reinstalls the application, their preferences will still be there.
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man, sounds like Windows and PC's are full of chaos and conflicting data.... where is the world of standards and protocol?
Is there a system out there that has consistency between developers?
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Sounds more like a religious question ....would you like AOA to move this post for you? ":O}
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Betcha it was hot on Aug17. Trying to hold that thought in early December!
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We're in for a cold one this winter, glad that your climate is so nice--so far!
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