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Can you try it using different memory sticks? Also, check if there is a newer BIOS available. Chect that memory timings, and voltage are correct, using CPU-Z or something similar. If you don't have any other memory modules, try it with just one installed, try running the memory/cpu at a slower speed, just to see if that stabilises it. |
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Been away a while myself. Great to see you here Red Roar! ":O}
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![]() I blame the gfx card. Ati is well knows for this kind of malfunctions! |
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UPDATE: I tried the power button after it had sat idle overnight, and lo and behold, it worked. I will run MemTest86 to see if it turns up, but timings and speed are set as per the box. When I tried my buddy's RAM on the first board (which I sent back) it did not fix it. I will check for a new BIOS, but if it returns to the broken state I have no clue how I would flash the BIOS given that I can't even get the beginnings of a POST screen. So as of now, it works. As for graphics card, I tried both onboard and my old 8800GS, and they flickered the same way. If it passes MemTest86 then I don't know what to suspect...I guess just hope it doesn't die again? UPDATE 2: Well that was quick! Upon rebooting to run MemTest86, it fell into its old habit of flickering. I'm going to take these sticks of RAM and run MemTest on my friend's box. If they turn up clean then I'm going to cut my losses on this mobo and get something else. Two bad boards is hardly a vote of confidence. Is there a chance the CPU is bad, do you think? It ran fine in my friend's box for a few minutes, and survived a quick run of Prime95...no instability when my machine WAS running.
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I don't know for sure what ails your machine. However, ECS is to be avoided at all costs! Think Asus, GigaByte, MSI or even Asrock for a less expensive choice. But NOT ECS! Nice to see you on the board, sorry that a problem is hassling you!
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The CPU's not bad. Like Danrok said, it will either run or not run at all. I was having this problem several years ago on ASUS boards. All kinds of weird non-post situations that required a sacrifice of a virgin to get the boards to post. I lost my faith in ASUS. Lately though, I haven't seen this too often with their boards, and my faith is renewed. In my experience, these problems are one of two things, almost exclusively: a) a bad, cheap, old, faulty, inefficient or underpowered power supply; perhaps one of those multi-rail supplies that everyone was so excited about a few short years ago. Almost everyone I know will tell you that a high powered single-rail supply will blow them away most of the time. Remember, some of the PSs that advertise high wattages combine the peak wattages of several rails; this may mean that one or more of the rails may be unable to handle the loads. It's voodoo advertising. Some 1000W supplies are POS because of it. OCZ should not fall in this category, but I can't swear to that. Your unit is multi-rail, but I don't see anything in the specs that would automatically fault it in my eyes other than that. (I am a firm believer in the single-rail supplies, like Corsair: one single 12V rail at 70A - but that is a personal preference more than anything else.) Hopefully, you have eliminated the PS by getting the OCZ (which certainly should work at un-overclocked settings.) So... b) a bad mainboard. (Don't laugh: ASUS at one time was so bad that I RMA'd 4 boards to get one that worked properly. Your situation might be the same. Stick to your guns, You have buyer's rights to get a working product.) All other causes of intermittent non-post scenarios, although not impossible, are much, much rarer. This includes memory, GPUs, or etc. At least that's what I have found. YMMV. (I'd look at the board at this point, and hassle ECS.)
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Yeah, I'm just throwing in the towel on this mobo. Sending it back to newegg and replacing it with this. Even if I got a working board eventually I just can't put my trust in it...never had an ECS, never will have an ECS. Experiences like this leave a bad taste in one's mouth. The Asus should be here Monday, and I feel pretty confident that will fix it. Ran my memory through Memtest overnight on my buddy's MSI board with a Phenom 955 and it was fine. I got the ECS because it had good reviews and it was $40 after a $30 rebate. However, I can't really take advantage of that rebate since I don't trust the board enough to cut the UPC from the box and kill my chances of returning it. In the past I've mainly used MSI boards but saw unkind things about the overclocking capabilities of their current sub-$100 boards, and this Asus looks like a reasonable compromise of cost vs performance. Thanks for the help! I'll let you guys know how high I can get this thing OC'ed (once it boots up that is), I have high hopes with a Hyper 212 cooler and chilly winter weather.
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Years ago I WORSHIPPED Soyo motherboards, then I got hit with three bad ones in a row, then they went tits up...so it goes...":O}
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I liked Soyo's too, until the scorch marks started showing up under the power caps on two boards. I've never had a bad Asus, but others sure have. I dunno, is there a gold standard anything these days, other than gold?
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Well, at least Asus can make a board. Running fine now. I'll report back in a few days when I've run it through some tests... Oh, and in regards to Soyo, I only recall one experience. It was before I was building computers, and my older brother was building his 2nd computer (actually for our mother). It was a Pentium 4 of some sort, I don't remember what all the specs were. What I DO remember is that the mobo was a Soyo, and the first one had only one working memory slot. The second one never booted. The third one finally, finally worked...and then after a month the northbridge fan died. Soyo number four was A-OK, for the long term. I think it ran for 4 years, and was retired not because it stopped working but because we upgraded and didn't have a case to put it in. Actually, it may still be at home in a box somewhere.
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So how is that ASUS board doing? any symptoms like the other two? I didn't read anything about swapping power supplies.... That really sounds like a Power Supply issue to me... specially since two different motherboards have the same symptoms. I was going to suspect electrostatic-discharge, but I don't think two different motherboards would have the exact same symptoms. Keep us updated
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It is possible the board, or its BIOS is duff, and designed that way. Some compatibility issue with the components used.
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If it's compatibility then I wouldn't think it would keep doing it even once I had stripped the components down to bare minimum, and tried two different sets of RAM in various configurations. That is, unless it was some sort of compatibility issue that permanently bricked the mobo, which is pretty nasty. It was really weird that I got the exact same behavior from both. Could also be a bad batch that came out of the factory perhaps.
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The days of troubleshooting all the way down to the component.. holy crud, that was a LONG time ago. Before the time of multi-layered boards, when a transistor had three legs to stand on and vacuum tubes could be tiny--and all over the place. Yeah, call me gramps.
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I use to love ECS boards, the ones I had were cheap and ran forever. No prob's at all with them. Hell I still have one or two of them sitting in the garage. Best of luck. One thing, try a new monitor with a new cord. Just for giggles. BlackBerry8330m/4.5.0.186 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104
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I have one ECS board and it worked fine for years. It was actually my second motherboard. I retired it last year for a newer one. But if I'm going to build a new machine, I always look to ASUS first.
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Asus(how do you pronounce it, Ah-soos, A-sus?) have always been good to me, they've been my first choice for years but a good friend hates 'em with a passion. The one Asrock(Asus's budget line) that I built for a friend ran great for years. Don't remember when ECS's became bad, but I know they did.
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