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Old 28th April, 2006, 01:51 AM
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Except in the mirror...":O}
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Just a small reflection upon the history of the world...":O}
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Old 28th April, 2006, 11:08 PM
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I have never even heard of smena.

Is it a localised version of another brand?
They were produced in the Former USSR..
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Old 29th April, 2006, 12:37 AM
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They were produced in the Former USSR..
So we're talking about a Lada camera.
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Old 29th April, 2006, 01:14 AM
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If you can afford a mirror in which to look?
Unfortunately no mirror could ever be big enough to contain the self importance of the rich, so there are always lots of smaller pieces broken off and pretty much just laying around.

They don't get used all that much as it is only in the smallest pieces that ones modesty can be seen... "O}
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Old 29th April, 2006, 01:19 AM
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So we're talking about a Lada camera.
Looks that way..
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Old 29th April, 2006, 02:53 AM
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Looks that way..
Sorry about your camera, dsio. 2.5 centimeters above cork?
The Smena looks like it's got a lot going for it, maybe it's a Zil in sheep's clothing?

More than a few people miss the economic certainty that the USSR brought with it. Not that they miss all of the features of the olde country.
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Old 29th April, 2006, 03:00 AM
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That same Camera I distinctly remember dropping on hard tiles from greater heights, and throwing around inside my laptop bag. And it was something that small.

I've dropped fine china from 4 feet onto that cork floor, and its bounced without breaking. Of all the places for it to happen I just can't believe it was that.
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Ok ok ok, I lied, I have 1,000 shares of sony stock of course i want prices to go up! lol
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Old 29th April, 2006, 08:12 AM
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OK, well I just bought a new camera off Ebay.

Its a Sony Cybershot DSC-F505

Its a 2.1MP camera, with litium ion battery packs (uses the same as my Sony DV video camera), memory sticks, and a large 5X optical zoom barrel lens.

What do you guys think? I paid about AU$100, or about 40 GBP for it, including 2 memory sticks, and 2 litium batteries. Mint condition.

I don't cameras so I would really need your opinion.

Heres a link to a review. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf505/page2.asp
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Old 29th April, 2006, 08:25 AM
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Not a bad price ...especially since you got the memory and extra batteries with it. Only problem I have with it is that it's only 2.1mp, so you're losing a fair amount of quality with the shots...but nothing the everyday joe would be able to tell
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Old 29th April, 2006, 08:40 AM
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This camera is specifically for tripod use, taking photos of items for ebay / sale / business. So all photos will be going on the internet, with none being printed out, which is why I didn't mind it being a 2.1.

Aside from that, is there anything you can tell me about it (optics and features wise).
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It's a nice camera, I'd recommend just snapping all shots at 1600x1200 to capture the highest level of detail, then resize using photoshop or another imaging editing application. Also, digital zoom is good and all but if you want quality try to zoom up on your object optically. 1600x1200 at 5feet 0 zoom would probably yeild a far better picture than 640x480 1x digital zoom. also, hold the shutter button down for a second before you snap a shot Other than that, it's a nice camera for that price it's awesome. See if you can find a rubber hood for it
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Old 29th April, 2006, 03:30 PM
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It's a nice camera, I'd recommend just snapping all shots at 1600x1200 to capture the highest level of detail, then resize using photoshop or another imaging editing application. Also, digital zoom is good and all but if you want quality try to zoom up on your object optically. 1600x1200 at 5feet 0 zoom would probably yeild a far better picture than 640x480 1x digital zoom. also, hold the shutter button down for a second before you snap a shot Other than that, it's a nice camera for that price it's awesome. See if you can find a rubber hood for it
Oh yea definately max res every shot. Its only 700kb per shot for 2.1MP on fine setting, and I have a 1GB memory stick, a 512, a 256, a pair of 32s, and a 64. Me thinks many photos!

I'm really excited now. I've never had a camera with lenses this good before, only point and shoot cameras. 2" LCD as well
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....Also, digital zoom is good...
Anyone that says digital zoom is good deserves to be shot ...and not in the head..somewhere where it will take days, weeks to bleed to death.

Digital zoom will never be any good until camera manufacturers realise that memory cards are bigger than 16 mb now and that they need to drop the JPEG format. JPEG is only good for the internet; true quality can only come if you're using either PNG or RAW..something with vector graphics so that zooming in doesn't come at the cost of quality (who cares if a photo is 200+mb)

And you've never had a camera with a zoom dsio? never even played with SLR/DSLRs? *drools* I remember the lense I bought one of my ex's..80-200mm canon (USM)..very nice lens, cost more than the camera unit (the lense you have on this camera is equivelant to a 38-190mm SLR lense)

All in all though dsio, I think you will have a blast with this camera
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Raw files are usually only used for DLRS. People DO care about the file size. Not everyone has big memorysticks. My brother hs four memory sticks, a 256, a 512, a 1gb, a 32 and a 128. He came back from Brazil with every single one full to the brim.
If he'd used RAW, he'd probably have barely a patch on what he got now.
As for DLRS, they are so cheap now that anyone in the £400 budget should consider the extra £100.
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True that RAW does take up a lot of space, but there's definately no arguing the quality that the file produces. My point was mainly the using the current JPEG compression algorithms, digital zoom bites the big one!
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And you've never had a camera with a zoom dsio? never even played with SLR/DSLRs? *drools* I remember the lense I bought one of my ex's..80-200mm canon (USM)..very nice lens, cost more than the camera unit (the lense you have on this camera is equivelant to a 38-190mm SLR lense)

All in all though dsio, I think you will have a blast with this camera
Na, I havn't really had a great zoom lens camera.

My P71, and every camera before it has had about a 3X optical zoom, and has been a point and shoot variety.

(I'm not a camera expert in any way, shape or form, consider me a complete noob)

The thing I notice is I couldn't get anything smaller than about a 4 inch area into focus with any previous camera, while I've seen people use this camera (I believe the term is macro zoom) to take images smaller than postage stamps with brilliant quality.

None of my cameras have ever been that good. They've been jack of all trades things.

The plan is to have 2 cameras. I have already bought this one on ebay (The DSC F505) and its going to be my home use, tripod camera (I have a brilliant $1000 tripod from the DV camera).

Its not practical to use on the move at all as its too big, and looks silly.

The second camera will be a Sony P93, which I have found in a local paper, and should be able to get, with a 512MB and a 256MB stick, for AU$200.

So for AU$300 total, I will end up with two cameras, the P93, and the F505, which should cover both purposes.

I just honestly think its impossible to find a camera that will fill both rolls at all let alone at a reasonable price point.

The new price of the F505 here was AU$1800, so I'm happy getting it for $100.

Spending 400GBP on a single camera, when my last one was destroyed by a drop is insanity to be honest. I'm never spending more than $300 on a camera again.
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