Problems with 8rda+ HELP please...

[Uncle Bob]

Originally posted by Hallowed_Point


Weak. Looks like I'll definately be moving on then. Sorry about your luck pal.

I'm glad you can come here and find information that helps you make an informed decision. We (staff esp.) are not EPOX salesmen. Bear in mind, however this is an EPOX thread forum. People come here to find solutions to problems so perhaps it appears that everyone has problems with EPOX boards.
So I guess I should say I have 2 EPOX boards (paid full price for them both) and absolutely love them. I was a devout **** man prior and although I found nothing wrong with them either, I have come to appreciate the level of support from EPOX techs I find here in this forum an for that reason I just ordered an 8RDA+ yesterday.
Your comments are welcome, but please remember we are here to help eachother and bashing a particular manufacturer is not within that realm.

[Daniel ~]

Originally posted by Hallowed_Point



Daniel~:

Async most definately won't post better bandwidth / scores than synch, for reasons you undoubtedly understand. However, the main point of the nForce2 chipset that interests I and countless others is the ability to run FSB speeds well in excess of 200 FSB, while maintaining reasonable PCI / AGP speeds. Since 200 is plenty achieveable with the inferior KT333 chipset, its the higher FSB region where the nF2 can effectively stretch its legs. The KT333 will run its PCI too high and HDD failure is the ultimate result. With the nF2, one could theoretically run FSB till your memory gave out (most likely 233-250 FSB) without worry of component failure, save northbridge temperatures. At ~230, the nF2 would be making in excess of 3.5 GB/s bandwidth, which would undoubtedly produce record shattering results. Unfortunately, the built in clockgen of the NF2 (southbridge, 200FSB) is inadequate. A turbo-pll or 3rd party clockgen is required to take the board up to where it can show its muscle.

Granted, we are but a handful of enthusiasts. But these are the qualities we require in a motherboard. Otherwise, the 8RDA+ seems to have potential.

Good day to you.

My point is a simple one, you've been consistently negative about a board you've never seen, why is that?

Why not wait, give the benefit of the doubt, and see what the majority of users find. I can't think of a single motherboard that has not benefitted from subsequent BIOS updates...not one. Can you?

So why all the huffing and puffing? Why not do the sensible thing and see what EPoX has put on the table? Why so eager to write off a board that you have no first hand knowledge of?

[Hallowed_Point]

Fair is fair.

I will retract my statements after I recieve word differently from a well known enthusiast. First hand experience a good impression makes, however there are folk that I inherently trust.

If I get the board, throw it on an O-scope, find a locked PCI frequency and a later BIOS allows for higher FSB, all is well.

AFAIK FSB options have always been in firsthand BIOS's, however with a newer chipset this may not be the case so far. Keep an eye on Madonions top 20, if the 8RDA+ can handle you will see your first 20k AMD

I am not out to belittle Epox, I simply said "200FSB max is weak."
If that is no longer the case, I am in err. But with the information at my current disposal, it stands.

Good day to you.

[bldegle2]

i have scoured the internet, reading as many reviews as possible pertaining to the NForce2 chipset.

i am not at all convinced that this is a good chipset, YET.

limited FSB (200), many boards are limited on the vre (there are already workarounds posted), the benches don't fly out at me as being some righteous replacement to the Kt333/400 chipsets, and lastly, it comes down to the 1/6 divider and or the PCI/AGP lock.

so what that it has dual channel whatever for the ramski, i have yet to see any user waxing fantastic on these boards.

yet, i seem to remember lots of posts from people wanting the motherboard and why is it taking so long to get to market.

there was a lot of hype and a lot of people are finding this out after spending some hard earned bucks, prolly the same people that were complaining about the above.

it still amazes me that after all this time they can't seem to get a righteous BX type chipset(only used as an example)/AMDcompatible, really nice haul a.. finally got it together, lets move on to other stuff, everything works chipset.

but no.

so wait, be patient, let the others spend their money and complain.

baldy

[Hallowed_Point]

No.. its a fantastic chipset. One with performance much greater than any VIA offering. It just needs the ability to run past 200FSB... well past.

A nForce2 stuck at 200... is like a Ferrari F50 stuck in 2nd gear. It has the horsepower but you gotta let it just GO.

Not all boards are limited to 200 FSB. **** which I will assume with confindence the Epox also features. But even 211 is insufficient. Also, strong running nF2 boards have memory scores in the vicinity of 97-98% efficiency. Clock per clock they own VIA boards and a majority of Intel offerings.

Time will tell.

[Daniel ~]

Hallowed_Point, please don't compare other motherboards to EPoX in this topic. For obvious reasons Neither ET nor Holst can respond to such comparisons and so they are not permitted. Our "AMD Motherboards and CPU" is open to such.

[caddelite]

I am using my 2100+ now in my older 8k7a and reinstalled windoze xp (again) but whos counting? Hehe i am! i hate reinstalling... Anyways its working fine in this mobo im convinced mine is defective. I am going to see about getting my money back and just waiting for a better motherboard to come out. This wasn't the board for me obviously thanks to everyone who chatted with me or tried to help solve my problem.

Adios....

-caddelite

[EPoX Tech]

Originally posted by Daniel ~
Way harsh Dude! You should share your toys with Holst, he is, after all, being severely tempted!! Remember, "Repression breeds violence!" LOL

He has his own at home to break !

[Daniel ~]

The Lucky Dog!! ":O}