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8th December, 2002, 06:52 PM
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| I took my D-Tek block and placed it on my other mobo the EP 8K3A+ and the center channel is over the die perfectly. There is nothing wrong with the block. I have even reverse the block and this makes no difference.
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8th December, 2002, 08:33 PM
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| Remember the die IS off centre anyway due to the lever mechanism for one, though i believe the mounting holes are = spaces in relation to the core. but the core IS marginallyt closer to one set of holes than the other. I am unsure as to why this is.
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9th December, 2002, 04:14 PM
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| Cooledbywater is correct. I have an 8rda+ on the bench and put a CPU in there, it is VERY off center. It must be will ALL boards, not just his and mine. This is truely bizarre. I wonder if other nforce boards are this way...
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9th December, 2002, 04:19 PM
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| "There is no difference that doesn't make a difference" If you can show that ACTUAL rather than theoretical cooling is effected I'm sure EPoX will be interested. The only way I know to do this is to try it.
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9th December, 2002, 04:31 PM
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__________________ Athlon 2600 XP @2.525 (210 x 12, 2.0V) ASUS A7N8X PC Power & Cooling Turbo 450 Micro Channel "White Water" --> Heater Core --> Iwaki MD-15R --> 1/2" Tygon In-Line System 2x 256MB OCZ EL 3500 2 40 GIG ATA 133 D740X (Fluid Bearing) Raid 0 TX2000 2 40 GIG ATA 100 120GXP IBM 7200 RPM Yamaha 16x10x40 ~ Creative Labs 52X CD-ROM ~ ATI 32MB DDR [color=bright green]"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" - Unknown[/color] We need YOUR help! Find a CURE ----->FOLDING @ HOME TEAM 32!!! |
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9th December, 2002, 04:36 PM
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| What part don't you understand?
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9th December, 2002, 04:38 PM
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__________________ Athlon 2600 XP @2.525 (210 x 12, 2.0V) ASUS A7N8X PC Power & Cooling Turbo 450 Micro Channel "White Water" --> Heater Core --> Iwaki MD-15R --> 1/2" Tygon In-Line System 2x 256MB OCZ EL 3500 2 40 GIG ATA 133 D740X (Fluid Bearing) Raid 0 TX2000 2 40 GIG ATA 100 120GXP IBM 7200 RPM Yamaha 16x10x40 ~ Creative Labs 52X CD-ROM ~ ATI 32MB DDR [color=bright green]"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" - Unknown[/color] We need YOUR help! Find a CURE ----->FOLDING @ HOME TEAM 32!!! |
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9th December, 2002, 05:03 PM
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| The bottomline is very simple to understand. AMD has strict guidelines that need to be followed by all.
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9th December, 2002, 05:16 PM
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| CooledByWater/DodgeViper and nikhsub1, You two made me want to take down my water cooling system and take out my mobo out from the case again. Last time I spend 2 hours to check if my MAZE3's Center Line against my 2400+ die Center Line. They were perfect match. I really wish I have a digital camera now so I can let you guys to take a look..... I am poor bastard! all $$ has spent on WC/Corsair and my LEGAL BILLs.
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9th December, 2002, 06:16 PM
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| AMD has left it up to the mobo manufactures if they want to place the holes in the board, but that does not mean just place the damm hole's anywhere. Again, “This is why bolt pattern on P/S are all the same, the width of CD drives are the same, AGP slots are the same, mobo mounting holes are the same, ram sockets are the same, and I could go on and on. Guidelines have to be followed or we all would have many components that do not fit" I would never own an Abit mainly for this reason. That board is very limited in the cooling devices that can be used. Given the fact that the socket lugs are going to have to be used, and by the size of some of the heat sinks being used the user may have a broken socket.
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9th December, 2002, 06:25 PM
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Also, I am quite sure I will not have my post moved, I am only pointing out the flaw of another board.
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9th December, 2002, 06:38 PM
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| Even if that picture was of a sample board, I really don't see much space left for holes... There are some components where the holes would be...   EDIT: Fixed stupid observation -- I'm a little tired, let's just say I made a 90 degrees mistake... 
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9th December, 2002, 07:25 PM
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| I guess I have strayed from the original post, but I hate it when people attack instead of posting questions in a reasonable fashion and only wish to be helped. When people start spouting out accusations and start pointing fingers, it gets annoying, as we have seen our EPoX reps here get annoyed as well. We are lucky to have them here and they help as much as possible and if it is a real problem, I am sure they will look into it, but they cannot just have answers at the drop of a hat as they are limited to what they can respond to and if it is a problem, it's not going to be fixed overnight.
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9th December, 2002, 08:24 PM
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| OK, I unmounted my water block, the AS3 left an imprint RIGHT IN THE CENTER of the block! It is fine, seems to be an optical illusion. I have a pic of the block, just no time to get it off the camera. Dodge, put some AS3 on the core and mount the block with the studs and look at the imprint on the bottom of the block, you will see it is right on.
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9th December, 2002, 08:29 PM
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| This is the second time I checked my MAZE3... and yes.... it is line up perfectly to the center. Like nikhsub1 said... my AS3 prints at the perfect center of my MAZE3 block. I was trying to get measurement tools and strings to find that out... but most simple way is to check the AS3 imprint... lol.... I am a dumbass
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9th December, 2002, 08:48 PM
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9th December, 2002, 09:16 PM
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| Hmmm, well I had used ASII and my imprint was off. Does not really matter now. The mobo was pickup by FEDEX and I no longer have it in my hands.
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9th December, 2002, 09:22 PM
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| The mods can do whatever they want with this thread. If they want to take it down they can. I asked for an exchange on a new unused 8DRA+ and have my fingers crossed. I was real close to getting a different board. With many reporting they did not see the problem led me to think somehow, someway this was a screwed up mobo. I checked and double check, mounted and remounted and came up with the same conclusion that the DIE was off centered to the four mounting holes.
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