Winbond CH5 or Twinmos with Winbond

bradmax57 · #1 (**permalink**) 22nd July, 2003, 09:18 AM

Are these the same chip or not, ive got some Twinmos's own which isnt anybetter than my OCZ, so dont know whether to get http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...f_Winbond.html or some of Twinmos with winbond, or can anyone suggest anything else

MasterAtArms · #2 (**permalink**) 22nd July, 2003, 09:35 AM

ET said that the PCB & the chips determine how good the memory is. If the PCB is not up to scratch then the chips onboard are irrelivant.

If you decide to try it, then let us know the results.

They are relatively cheap.

golfer49 · #3 (**permalink**) 22nd July, 2003, 12:33 PM

Get the Twinmos with PC3200 with Winbond chips!

Nitza666 · #4 (**permalink**) 22nd July, 2003, 03:04 PM

Iam using Transcend PC3200 with winbond ch-5 chips 2x256 running at 215HMz FSB dual channel on the 8rga+ 2.77V at 2-2-2-6.

bradmax57 · #5 (**permalink**) 22nd July, 2003, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitza666

Iam using Transcend PC3200 with winbond ch-5 chips 2x256 running at 215HMz FSB dual channel on the 8rga+ 2.77V at 2-2-2-6.

sorry I never heard of them, where can you get them?

Lazgoat · #6 (**permalink**) 22nd July, 2003, 05:45 PM

Komplett do the TwinMos w/ Winbond CH-5 chips fairly reasonably. I've emailed Overclockers in the past asking what chips come on their TwinMos modules and they were'nt Winbond.
Everyone recommends the TwinMos w/Winbond modules. Good luck!

Laz.

bradmax57 · #7 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazgoat

Komplett do the TwinMos w/ Winbond CH-5 chips fairly reasonably. I've emailed Overclockers in the past asking what chips come on their TwinMos modules and they were'nt Winbond.
Everyone recommends the TwinMos w/Winbond modules. Good luck!

Laz.

I know but with the shipping there about £20 more than the winbond ones from OCUK mmmm

Neoprene · #8 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 01:45 PM

Hi ,

Just going to copy a post I made in another thread which seems relevant here ! The Winbond chips on Oc`ers UK are retailing for £88 ex postage , so looks like I saved myself a bit !

Here`s my system specs ..I`m very pleased with the RAM speeds ! I bought generic Winbond CH-5 chips from Ebay for $107 incl. postage (£66) , stuck some thermaltake heat spreaders on them ,and now have them running at 216 mhz @ 10 ,3,3,3 Cas 2.0 with absolute stability ! I have managed to take these chips up to 220 , but am having some other stability problems which are not RAM related .

31/7 now have the chips running stable @220 and could take them further but limited by my processor and its voltages !!

bradmax57 · #9 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neoprene

Hi ,

Just going to copy a post I made in another thread which seems relevant here ! The Winbond chips on Oc`ers UK are retailing for £88 ex postage , so looks like I saved myself a bit !

Here`s my system specs ..I`m very pleased with the RAM speeds ! I bought generic Winbond CH-5 chips from Ebay for $107 incl. postage (£66) , stuck some thermaltake heat spreaders on them ,and now have them running at 216 mhz @ 10 ,3,3,3 Cas 2.0 with absolute stability ! I have managed to take these chips up to 220 , but am having some other stability problems which are not RAM related .

Just got a 1700+ today AIUGA 0323 DTU3C, dunno if its going to any better OC than the 2500 doubt it but didnt cost anything anyway so Im going to give it a go, just busy ghosting my pc now!

bradmax57 · #10 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 03:08 PM

WTF? I dont have any multis have I got a Palli?

*update*
Ok so I got multis but when I increase fsb Im gettting a 11 x 100fsb cpu do I need to put jumper back on?

MasterAtArms · #11 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:13 PM

Palminos are M = 1.75v and u = 1.6v, so you haven't got a palmino. It is strange that you have a FSB problem. Try the jumper, then try another bios. Where did you get the new CPU? Did it really cost nothing? AFAIK a cheap CPU still adds up to ~ £50 or near enough new.

bradmax57 · #12 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterAtArms

Palminos are M = 1.75v and u = 1.6v, so you haven't got a palmino. It is strange that you have a FSB problem. Try the jumper, then try another bios. Where did you get the new CPU? Did it really cost nothing? AFAIK a cheap CPU still adds up to ~ £50 or near enough new.

when I said nothing it was actually £36.50, but now everything has gone to pot, geting sirens, no boot nothing Im using wifes pc as we speak!

Something weird here default voltage is showing as 1.5v?

MasterAtArms · #13 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:24 PM

Try the holding down insert key trick when trying to post. Coupled with tapping the del key as a second measure. Then clear cmos. Then clear cmos and remove battery and wait. Try again. Then it is replacement bios chip time. www.epox.org Considered a bios saviour?

bradmax57 · #14 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterAtArms

Try the holding down insert key trick when trying to post. Coupled with tapping the del key as a second measure. Then clear cmos. Then clear cmos and remove battery and wait. Try again. Then it is replacement bios chip time. www.epox.org Considered a bios saviour?

got it back!!!! put jumper for 133/166 max fsb 180, put in 200 x 10 and its back to posting as 100 x 11, also as edited above default voltage seems to 1.5?

MasterAtArms · #15 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:48 PM

If default voltage is 1.5v then you got a dlt3c (where l = 1.5v)

Where did you buy this?

I have an 1800+ dlt3c 0312. It has been to 2.5Ghz on a cold day with good watercooling and >2v! Now at 1.7v 2.1Ghz for the hot spell.

My idea of good watercooling:
Groovy

MasterAtArms · #16 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:52 PM

So you still got a problem? :/ I suggest updating to the latest bios.

bradmax57 · #17 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterAtArms

If default voltage is 1.5v then you got a dlt3c (where l = 1.5v)

Where did you buy this?

I have an 1800+ dlt3c 0312. It has been to 2.5Ghz on a cold day with good watercooling and >2v! Now at 1.7v 2.1Ghz for the hot spell.

My idea of good watercooling:
Groovy

My mistake sorry, here is everything off the chip

AXDA1700DLT3C 9721928280653
AIUGA 0323WPBW

This thing is drving me up the wall!!!!, can get about 300mhz oc!! I got the barton upto 2.3ghz?

bradmax57 · #18 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradmax57

My mistake sorry, here is everything off the chip

AXDA1700DLT3C 9721928280653
AIUGA 0323WPBW

This thing is drving me up the wall!!!!, can get about 300mhz oc!! I got the barton upto 2.3ghz?

going to try barton back in

MasterAtArms · #19 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 05:05 PM

Careful when you mount the chip dude. That chip should be a blinder.

http://mp3.zonebg.com/cpu/cpu.php

Results:
Core Thoroughbred-A
CPU Model 8
Manufacturing Process 130 nm
Approximate Transistor Count 37.2 million
Approximate Die Size 80 sq. mm
Performance Rating 1700+
Working frequency 1467 MHz
Package Type OPGA
Operating Voltage 1.5 V
Max Die Temperature 90° C
L1 Cache Size 128 KB
L2 Cache Size 256 KB
Multiplier 11x
FSB Frequency 266 MHz
Stepping Code AIUGA
Manufacture Year 2003
Manufacture Week 23
Production Batch B
Batch Production Number 0653

MasterAtArms · #20 (**permalink**) 23rd July, 2003, 05:09 PM

Mine:

Core Thoroughbred-B
CPU Model 8
Manufacturing Process 130 nm
Approximate Transistor Count 37.6 million
Approximate Die Size 84 sq. mm
Performance Rating 1800+
Working frequency 1533 MHz
Package Type OPGA
Operating Voltage 1.5 V
Max Die Temperature 90° C
L1 Cache Size 128 KB
L2 Cache Size 256 KB
Multiplier 11.5x
FSB Frequency 266 MHz
Stepping Code JIUHB
Manufacture Year 2003
Manufacture Week 12
Production Batch M
Batch Production Number 1018

Your production batch being B bodes well. I am sure there is a simple explaination of why you are having troubles.