Athlon XP1600+ @ XP2000+ !!!

[Mushkin Rules]

I have just upgraded from Athlon TBird 1.4 Ghz to Athlon XP1600+ today. My XP1600+ is AGKGA - 4. It is still LOCKED at default 10.5 multiplier. So, the default is 133 x 10.5 = 1.4 GHz. Tonight I will UNLOCK the L1 Cache Multiplier with Super Glue & Gold Conductive Ink. Meanwhile, before Unlocking it, I am playing around with the multiplier still LOCKED, and I can run at Athlon XP2000+, which is 1680 MHz. I notice that Athlon XP1600+ (real clock is 1.4 GHz) has better benchmark, faster, and lower in CPU temperature by 5 to 6 C compared to my TBird 1.4 GHz. My suggestion for all those TBird users out there, I recommend very much to upgrade to Athlon XP1600+ for Price vs Performance. I bought mine for US$ 120. Too bad, Athlon XP1800+ is still expensive at around US$ 215. This Athlon XP1600+ and EPOX 8KHA+ are VERY SWEET

Here's my system specs:
- OS: Win XP Pro Final Version 5.1 Build 2600
- Monitor: ACER FP751 LCD TFT 17" Flat Monitor
- Mobo: EPOX 8KHA+ (VCore Mod)
- BIOS: 8khal00 dated 11/30/2001
- CPU: Athlon XP1600+ (AGKGA-4)
- HSF: Swiftech MC462A Rev1 + Delta 80mm 80 CFM
- Memory: 2x 256MB Crucial PC2100 DDR + 1x 256MB Corsair XMS2400 with Thermaltake DDR Blue Heat Spreaders
- HDD: 2 x Quantum Fireball AS 7200 RPM 40GB ATA 100 / UDMA 5
1 x Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 7200 RPM 46GB ATA 100 / UDMA 5
- CDRW: Plextor 12/10/32A - FirmWare: 1.09
- DVDROM: Sony DDU1621 (16/40 X) - FirmWare: S1p6 (Region Free)
- Keyboard: M$ Internet Keyboard Pro USB
- Mouse: Logitech Wireless Optical USB Mouse
- NIC: 3COM 3C905C-TX for Cable Modem - PCI slot 4 IRQ 9 changed automatically by Win XP to IRQ 3
Compex RE100-TX/WOL (Realtek 8139 chipset) for LAN - PCI slot 6 IRQ 9 changed automatically by Win XP to IRQ 3
- Graphic Card: Winfast GeForce2 MX DHPro - AGP slot IRQ 11, Driver: Detonator 22.80
- Soundcard: Voyetra Turtle Beach's Santa Cruz - PCI slot 3 IRQ 5 Driver 4142 WHQL
- Hauppage Win TV - PCI slot 5 IRQ 5
- RAID Card: Chaintech ATA100-R (HPT370 - No Raid Array is set) - PCI slot 2 IRQ 10
- Case: Lian-Li PC-60 USB
- PSU: Mod Enermax EG451P-VE 431 Watt (+5 V Rail = 5.05 V)
- Other: Alpha Aluminium Heatsink on Southbridge, Small Aluminium Heatsink on ICS 93718 DDR Clock Gen and Small Aluminium Heatsink on CS 5301 Voltage Regulator. 80 mm 40 CFM fan is on top of CS 5301 and 3 Phase Voltage Regulator.

And here's my Athlon XP1600+ Benchmark:

Athlon XP1600+ (1.4 GHz) @ 160x10.5 = 1680 MHz

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[WinXP]

I just installed a new AMD XP1700+ yesterday on my Epox 8K7A+, it does run alot cooler than my 1.4 T-bird I replaced. Idles 27c load 36c water cooled. Have not unlocked it yet running 11x160 (1774) with no problems. It was worth the change to me.

[EPoX Tech]

That XP1600+ seems to do just a little less than my XP1800+ of the same stepping - that show's that it's a waste of time wasting money on the "quicker"(?) processor.

You gotta unlock the thing though and give your memory a workout - even more to be gained. If done correctly - you should get every multiplier ratio there is.

[Mushkin Rules]

Originally posted by EPoX Tech
That XP1600+ seems to do just a little less than my XP1800+ of the same stepping - that show's that it's a waste of time wasting money on the "quicker"(?) processor.

You gotta unlock the thing though and give your memory a workout - even more to be gained. If done correctly - you should get every multiplier ratio there is.

EPoX Tech,

Initially, I was thinking of buying Athlon XP1800+, but then rethinking again. For US$100 more ? Then I chose Athlon XP1600+ for US$ 120. I have noticed that the more Official GHz on Athlon XP+, the less its overclockability in percentage, as it's nearly its edge. Unless you have the budget and unless the XP1800+ price is reducing, I recommend you all to get XP1600+ over XP1800+

[EPoX Tech]

Originally posted by Mushkin Rules

EPoX Tech,

Initially, I was thinking of buying Athlon XP1800+, but then rethinking again. For US$100 more ? Then I chose Athlon XP1600+ for US$ 120. I have noticed that the more Official GHz on Athlon XP+, the less its overclockability in percentage, as it's nearly its edge. Unless you have the budget and unless the XP1800+ price is reducing, I recommend you all to get XP1600+ over XP1800+

and try to get the latest stepping also

[QUOTE]That XP1600+ seems to do just a little less than my XP1800+ of the same stepping - that show's that it's a waste of time wasting money on the "quicker"(?) processor.

You gotta unlock the thing though and give your memory a workout - even more to be gained. If done correctly - you should get every multiplier ratio there is QUOTE]




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[EPoX Tech]

Originally posted by Brad

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And the point you are trying to make in this instance is what exactly ?

[Mushkin Rules]

SWEET, I finally did it. My Athlon XP1600+ is now 100% UNLOCKED.

It took me about 2.5 Hour to do it
- 10 minutes to take out my Swiftech MC462A and the XP1600+
- 15 minutes for the L1 Cache covering with scotch tape preparation
- 15 minutes to apply Super Glue to cover the "valley"
- 15 minutes to let the Super Glue dry & smooth it
- 15 minutes to sand and smooth the left over
- 15 minutes to apply a mixture of conductive ink
- 30 minutes to let the conductive ink dry under hot lamp
- 5 minutes to apply scotcsh tape to cover the L1 Cache
- 15 minutes to install MC462A and change less noisy Panaflo 48 CFM fan
- 15 minutes to play around with multiplier in bios menu & to confirm all multipliers are 100% working

The hardest part is to cover the valley. You definitely need a Magnifying Glass.

And now, I am running at 161 x 10 = 1.61 GHz but it's read and actually runs at 1.62 GHz

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[Cole]

Originally posted by EPoX Tech
That XP1600+ seems to do just a little less than my XP1800+ of the same stepping - that show's that it's a waste of time wasting money on the "quicker"(?) processor.

You gotta unlock the thing though and give your memory a workout - even more to be gained. If done correctly - you should get every multiplier ratio there is.

I have to agree on that. I've setup at least a dozen 1500+ boxes and they all overclocked to 1680-1700 quite easily. I had one 1800+ and it would do no better than 1725. Seems like they've hit the end of the road at .18u and more money gets you little more than a different multiplier.

[EPoX Tech]

Originally posted by Cole
I have to agree on that. I've setup at least a dozen 1500+ boxes and they all overclocked to 1680-1700 quite easily. I had one 1800+ and it would do no better than 1725. Seems like they've hit the end of the road at .18u and more money gets you little more than a different multiplier.

Agree Agree Agree !!! Isn't the bother of unlocking just so worth it though.

[Cole]

Originally posted by EPoX Tech


Agree Agree Agree !!! Isn't the bother of unlocking just so worth it though.

I didn't even bother unlocking the 1500's. Most of them top out at 1700, and 170 is about the best I can get out most dimms with aggressive timings - just seems like the perfect combination without any hassles (10X170) along with cas 2

[Random Nonsense]

im at 1718 now........ i cant run 10X170 i get probs with the mouse god knows why!

Epox Tech, I was referring to you meaning we'd get the 1/5 and 1/6 pci speed.

I had thought you meant cpu multiplier, but they go up tp 20x or something, if you change the L10 bridge. So I can't imagine you meaning that.

As well as the fact you were talking about very fast memory just in that sentence.

[Holst]

I now have a Big Grin

Ive just got a Xp-1700 (on special offer £99+vat)

ive yet to run it as my RMA board is still yet to arrive

But my watercooling is now finished (but ive allready though of a hundred ways to improove it) so im starting planning on the MK2 peltier system allready.

[EPoX Tech]

Originally posted by Brad
Epox Tech, I was referring to you meaning we'd get the 1/5 and 1/6 pci speed.

I had thought you meant cpu multiplier, but they go up tp 20x or something, if you change the L10 bridge. So I can't imagine you meaning that.

As well as the fact you were talking about very fast memory just in that sentence.

Repetitive, monotonous, predictable.

true :P

[Don Govan]

Just 2 week back i bought my Athlon XP 1600+ stepping code
AGNGA-Y ... new green coloured processor .... is this processor
has good OC'ing compare to the older stepping code..
AGKGA-Y/9/4 ...... haven't tried unlock it ..yet .... becoz
this my first AMD PC .... and i'm new with overclocking ...

Do any One has site to learn about unlocking processor and
OC...

[mookydooky]

They have a video of the unlocking process at Tom's Hardware site. go to:

www.tomshardware.com

The video is pretty easy to find.

Mook.

[EPoX Tech]

Originally posted by Don Govan
Just 2 week back i bought my Athlon XP 1600+ stepping code
AGNGA-Y ... new green coloured processor .... is this processor
has good OC'ing compare to the older stepping code..
AGKGA-Y/9/4 ...... haven't tried unlock it ..yet .... becoz
this my first AMD PC .... and i'm new with overclocking ...

Do any One has site to learn about unlocking processor and
OC...

Yes the green ones generally are quite overclockable

[Don Govan]

Wat is the advantages of unclocking the processor??
with out Unclocking is it ok ... i push my FSB high for
OC'ing .....