Battlefield 2142 Demo

[skool h8r]

Originally Posted by Daston

cheers for the update will try it out later. Personaly I cant wait for Quake wars its going to wipe the floor with BF:2142

Even Quake itself, and Enemy Territory, Even the Original Unreal Tournament kicks 2142's ass. Even RUNESCAPE is better and that's a statement.

[chrisbard]

Originally Posted by skool h8r

Even Quake itself, and Enemy Territory, Even the Original Unreal Tournament kicks 2142's ass. Even RUNESCAPE is better and that's a statement.

You guys have seen one map only and concluded it is a bad game lmao I smell some of the writers in this thread have no ideea how this game is because they haven't played it ! Bwuahahaha. I play 2142 whenever I have time and I like it a lot ! Let others check it, don't say it's bad because your vcard sucks

[aghastpumpkin]

Originally Posted by skool h8r

Even Quake itself, and Enemy Territory, Even the Original Unreal Tournament kicks 2142's ass. Even RUNESCAPE is better and that's a statement.

That Is a bit unfair. Runescape is an entirely different approach to gaming. For what it does, it does it extremely well. No, it doesn't have great graphics but just look at how its running.

ET is utter crap. End of. ET players are famous for being so good at the game, that anyone else who attempts to play simply repeatedly dies, it has a group of followers who won't desert it for any reason, even if there are clearly better games.

2142 I'm sure is a OK game. My reasons for not liking it are because it is, unless you are blind, a clear attempt by EA to make as much cash as possible. There is little thought put into it. It's a franchise. And the fact it's based on a BF2 does not bode well.

Chris, you are right in saying one cannot be so dismissive of something they have not tried. But when every single review slams the game, why would I bother spending ages downloading a 1GB Demo?

I strongly suggest waiting for Crysis and buying Company of Heroes now. COH is without a doubt the best PC Game I have ever played, bar none.
FPS fans I'm sure will slam me for this and slap HL2 in my face, but I'm not really an FPS fan so thats why COH is for me the best.

[raphael2040]

I'm gonna agree with Chris here.

Everybody's all 'omfg EA sucks therefore BF2142 is going to suck too'.

Unless you've actually played this game, you have no idea what you're missing. The gameplay is similar to BF2, but it has a futuristic feel to it, which I just love. The weapons, vehicles, even the one map that we get to play in the demo; it's all amazing.

2142 I'm sure is a OK game. My reasons for not liking it are because it is, unless you are blind, a clear attempt by EA to make as much cash as possible. There is little thought put into it. It's a franchise. And the fact it's based on a BF2 does not bode well.

As much money as possible. Isn't that the whole idea of selling a game, AP? XD

And, I think their reasons for basing it on BF2 was because BF2 was crazy popular. And they did the right thing, in my opinion. Leave the gameplay the same, but just adding more random stuff to it.

It's pretty damn fun. To everyone dissing the game; if you haven't played it, don't diss it. If you've played it and hate it, say whatever you want about it.

There are a lot of games in the near future that are going to kick BF2142's ass, yes. But since we live in the here and now, I think BF2142 will be a nice little time-passer 'till they come out, don't ya think?

[aghastpumpkin]

I can't disagree more. Your suggesting that people must buy/try a game before deciding whether they'll like it or not.
I already know I wouldn't like Doom 3. It's monsters scary stuff etc and to me that eeks of crappiness and cheese. Hence, I've neve rplayed it. I don't need to, I know already I wouldn't like it.
A time passer? £30 is a lot of money to spend on a game which, most of which (The engine etc) you already have in the form of BF2, your only gonna play as a time filler?
Whoa. BF2142 is more like an expansion pack. It's no different in the extensiveness of change that POE brings about, yet they slap a new game price tag on it. The ethics are wrong. EA does this all the time and it sucks.

[aghastpumpkin]

Originally Posted by raphael2040

And, I think their reasons for basing it on BF2 was because BF2 was crazy popular. And they did the right thing, in my opinion.

Whoa. Hey! Wasn't the BF2 Engine CLEARLy riddled with endless problems?
Isn't it one of the most problematic games ever made?

"Results 1 - 10 of about 3,770,000 for BF2 problems."

Crazy. And you say basing a new game on this crappy engine is a good idea? Clearly it's not - it's just laziness because they cannot be bothered to start from scratch and make the foundations of the game better. BECAUSE all they care about is extending profits and not the quality of the game itself.
And then they ask a new game price for what is essentially BF2 with some different models (Easy for DICE to do) and different maps? (Again Easy for DICE to do).

[Pitch]

Meh. I beta tested BF2142.. (for some reason)

It's just a reskin of BF2. If you like BF2, there's no reason not to like this. The gameplay remains the same, just a refresh of models and textures with some new maps.

[skool h8r]

I DID test the demo which is why i decided i had a right to slam it, fair enough isn't it?

The texture quality is utter crud, even at max and it is quite laggy. If they tried to make the textures better and optimise the engine, perhaps i wouldn't be so critical. To me, there are 3 very important factors in terms of graphics when it comes to gaming: Lighting, Textures and particles, in that order. For example, if you look at the textures in HL2/CS:S, there are some that are used for floors and the grooves between the tiles look extremely realistic. No matter what direction a light source is coming from, it accuratly shades the correct edges in the correct amount in the correct colour. And these are still flat surfaces. With the BF engine, we get textures that look stretched, distorted and have no attempt to make them look 3d, even thoughthe terrain they are on is 3d (most of the time).

Therefore, i slay BF2142 and will not be purchasing it.

Even if it was my type of thing, i wouldn't even download a pirate copy of the game, that's how much i hate it (but that's not my type of thing anyway so it doesn't matter).

Just to let you know how crappy BF2 is, EA/DICE can't even use decent discs to write the game onto: mine has a crack that's right across the middle, it still works but will not autorun and is a lot slower. It happened in my DVD-ROM drive. It's the first disc this has happened to EVER (for me it is).

There you have it, BF2 and 2142 are a steaming pile of crud.

[MONKEYMAN]

Originally Posted by skool h8r

The texture quality is utter crud, even at max and it is quite laggy. If they tried to make the textures better and optimise the engine, perhaps i wouldn't be so critical.

Perhaps you are being a little optimistic running BF2 at full settings on your card...I have to leave one or two settings at medium when running high AA to get a high fps with my 7800gt. Plus with one gig of RAM there is going to be a fair amount of pagefile useage.

Originally Posted by skool h8r

Just to let you know how crappy BF2 is, EA/DICE can't even use decent discs to write the game onto: mine has a crack that's right across the middle, it still works but will not autorun and is a lot slower. It happened in my DVD-ROM drive. It's the first disc this has happened to EVER (for me it is).

I think you will find they are using the same discs as everyone else.

Im not trying to flame you here but you seem to be trying to stir up some sort of response by giving very negative opinions based on seemingly little.
I quite agree BF2 has been very problematic with missed release dates and dodgy patches but it is still one of the most popular games around and I for one will keep playing it.
I have played the BF2142 demo and I was not over impressed but like many others Ill go out and buy it anyway and give it a fair chance.

[IceRaptor]

I think the games quite cool, dont know why everyones complaining, but then again i also like bf2 which alot of ppl hated

[Favu]

I think BF2 had a large amount of potential, but it was just far far too buggy, and, to be honest, the graphics really wheren't very good.

[Pitch]

Originally Posted by skool h8r

I DID test the demo which is why i decided i had a right to slam it, fair enough isn't it?

The texture quality is utter crud, even at max and it is quite laggy. If they tried to make the textures better and optimise the engine, perhaps i wouldn't be so critical. To me, there are 3 very important factors in terms of graphics when it comes to gaming: Lighting, Textures and particles, in that order. For example, if you look at the textures in HL2/CS:S, there are some that are used for floors and the grooves between the tiles look extremely realistic. No matter what direction a light source is coming from, it accuratly shades the correct edges in the correct amount in the correct colour. And these are still flat surfaces. With the BF engine, we get textures that look stretched, distorted and have no attempt to make them look 3d, even thoughthe terrain they are on is 3d (most of the time).

Therefore, i slay BF2142 and will not be purchasing it.

Even if it was my type of thing, i wouldn't even download a pirate copy of the game, that's how much i hate it (but that's not my type of thing anyway so it doesn't matter).

Just to let you know how crappy BF2 is, EA/DICE can't even use decent discs to write the game onto: mine has a crack that's right across the middle, it still works but will not autorun and is a lot slower. It happened in my DVD-ROM drive. It's the first disc this has happened to EVER (for me it is).

There you have it, BF2 and 2142 are a steaming pile of crud.

I can't really complain about the graphics atall. BF2 runs very very well on an X1900 and I have to say, it looks pretty damn good.

[Daston]

To be fair the BF2 engine isnt all bad ok the ragdoll isnt upto sorce engine levels but then the games are for very different jobs. BF:2142 demo is a good laugh some nice original ideas in there (not refering to the Metal Gear type walkers tho) I think this could be a fun game to Tie us over till BF3 comes out (in the same way that Vietnam used the 1942 engine and was just used as a test bed for the choppers etc)

[Pitch]

http://frontlinesgame.com/

Sod BF3, this game's packing UE3.

[aghastpumpkin]

Originally Posted by skool h8r

I DID test the demo which is why i decided i had a right to slam it, fair enough isn't it?

The texture quality is utter crud, even at max and it is quite laggy. If they tried to make the textures better and optimise the engine, perhaps i wouldn't be so critical. To me, there are 3 very important factors in terms of graphics when it comes to gaming: Lighting, Textures and particles, in that order. For example, if you look at the textures in HL2/CS:S, there are some that are used for floors and the grooves between the tiles look extremely realistic. No matter what direction a light source is coming from, it accuratly shades the correct edges in the correct amount in the correct colour. And these are still flat surfaces. With the BF engine, we get textures that look stretched, distorted and have no attempt to make them look 3d, even thoughthe terrain they are on is 3d (most of the time).

Therefore, i slay BF2142 and will not be purchasing it.

Even if it was my type of thing, i wouldn't even download a pirate copy of the game, that's how much i hate it (but that's not my type of thing anyway so it doesn't matter).

Just to let you know how crappy BF2 is, EA/DICE can't even use decent discs to write the game onto: mine has a crack that's right across the middle, it still works but will not autorun and is a lot slower. It happened in my DVD-ROM drive. It's the first disc this has happened to EVER (for me it is).

There you have it, BF2 and 2142 are a steaming pile of crud.

Think about how big the maps are in BF2 and perhaps you'll be a little more forgiving on the graphics, which in my view, considering the gams now over a year old, are excellant.
Even on my "******" X800Gto. Thank you very much!
Often my main gripes with the game are the fault of the idiots who play it, and the buggy engine, rather than the graphics.

[Daston]

Originally Posted by Pitch

http://frontlinesgame.com/

Sod BF3, this game's packing UE3.

Crazy Bannana's that looks sweet!

[chrisbard]

MAny games are looking excelent and have poor gameplay. For ex. Counter Strike Source may not be as candy looking as someother game, but I am sure as hell that there isn't another game to match it's multiplayer ! Thus if you want eye candy go fishing in real nature and stop criticizing BF2142 or any other game :P

[skool h8r]

Originally Posted by Pitch

http://frontlinesgame.com/

Sod BF3, this game's packing UE3.

OMG! Now i don't have to even go near BF-ranchise! UE3, which means HDR/Bloom, good physics (not physucks, nothing against BF's physics though, they were decent), and all the other goodies of UE3! It even has flying drones like some of the aircraft in 2142.

I've got nothing against people playing the game, but to me, it sucks a lot. I think that other game designers can and should learn a lot from DICE. Their theory was good, i thank them for that. They had a good idea, but it's gone so wrong by people trying to exploit it with things like bunnyhopping. How did people discover that? Admittedly, they did fix it, fair enough, but when 1.3 rolled around, people were 'cartillerying'. When you see something like that, you do tend to laugh at first but it soon becomes old.

If they fixed the textures in BF2142, i'd gladly play it. In fact, why don't we make it a community project, to make better textures for it. I'd gladly help with it. That would make it all fine for me (just about). Perhaps we could even modify some from Source and work them into the BF engine. I'm prepared to do that because textures are one of the most important parts in a game. With any luck, our textures will be smaller in size thus making it easier on resources and therefore making for quicker loading times and less lag.

Anyone wanna help, feel free to post in the other topic.

[aghastpumpkin]

I think doing something like that would be a project which would need virtually full time attention from a large group of skilled people.

[skool h8r]

Originally Posted by aghastpumpkin

I think doing something like that would be a project which would need virtually full time attention from a large group of skilled people.

Not necessarily. For example, i've just modified a texture in photoshop. I've given it more depth and it's more sharper. It's not perfect but it's a bit improvement. If you want to see it, check out the other thread.