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Old 26th February, 2003, 12:49 AM
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new pc (what should i buy with £550)

hello everyone
just sold my old pc need a new one soon!
need some advice on what parts i should buy with £550
got a bit of a headache searching through all those sites with unlimited lists of hardware to buy and came up with this
GF4Ti4200-8x 128MB AGP RP VIVO £105.54
Dabsvalue 17" 0.25 PureFlat MPR-II TCO99 £89.37
AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 1.8Ghz SoA Box £89.00
Abit SoA VIA KT400 ATX A L R £77.45
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9 80GB UDMA133 £67.66
Dabsvalue ATX MidiTower 300W ATX12V USB £25.54

Sub-total £458.56 dabs..
VAT £80.24
Total £538.80 what do u think ????_ forgot about memory!!!!!!!!
or this

komplettt
114452 Sapphire Radeon 9700 Atlantis 128MB
- AGP, ATI 9700, DVI, TV-Out, Retail Confirmed
186,58
112345 Chieftec Sidepanel w/window and fan
- For Silver Miditower 20-49 34,01
115589 Sony CD recorder IDE 52x24x52x Retail
- Internal Retail Kit (CRX220A1)
100+ 52,85
112049 AMD Athlon XP2200+ 1.8 GHz 266 MHz bus
- Socket A (Thoroughbred) Processor (OEM) 500+ 82,26
111122 Western Digital Caviar 80GB IDE 7200RPM
- Special Edition 8MB cache WD800JB 500+ 78,47
113191 Abit AT7-MAX2 Mainboard Socket A, S-ATA
- VIAKT400, ATA/133, ATX, USB2.0, 8X, Raid 50-99 123,66
114950 Corsair XMS3200 DDR-DIMM 256MB PC2700
- 32Meg x 8, CAS 2-3-3-6-T1, 400MHz, 6ns 20-49 63,14
112076 Hansol 17" CRT 720P TCO-99
- Monitor, (UK) 50-99 107,94 total 725 766 with 2 day postal
is this worth putting in the extra cash ????????????
or does someone else have a better idea !
komplett looks expensive or is it worth the extra cash
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Old 26th February, 2003, 07:23 AM
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Hello, welcome to AOA Forums

Are you planning on overclocking this beast? If you are, you should look into the Tbred 2100+ CPU, it seems as the best bang for the buck these days.

You may also want to look into an Epox board instead. No matter which brand you are going for you probably shouldn't go with a kt400 chipset. Have you seen the latest nForce2 boards? THey should be top notch these days.
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Old 26th February, 2003, 05:28 PM
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Welcome to AOA Forums, cdmp123!

As Allan noted, the KT 400 chipset is passe.' Even the KT 400A doesn't cut the mustard. It's nForce2 or nothin' atm. If you are interested in overclocking your new PC, the XP-2100 is much better than the XP 2200. Mainboards with the nForce and nForce2 chipsets are power hogs. The generic power supply unit that comes with Dabs's econo Mid-Tower is only good for one thing. It classes up the bin a bit. Seriously. 'Fraid that you need to invest in a high-quality 400W PSU. These are not shockingly expensive. Wattage rating alone does not a good PS make! AMD approved is much better. If you can buy SPI Sparkle 400W PS's in the UK, they are definitely worth their cost.

The 725 lb Sterling box ain't a bad deal, but the KT 400 is dead. And you need 512 Mb of RAM nowadays, too.

And 41 quid for 2-Day shipping?? Unless standard, slowpoke shipping means that a PC will arrive with dents in it, personally, I'd save the money.
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Old 26th February, 2003, 07:10 PM
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hello again, just got in from work and read your replies
thanks allan, cloasters for the advice ....
ok ive had a look at nforce boards and they seem pretty good
and less expensive .
ill take the advice on _board , and go for the force
so ive got another list of names and numbers from ebuyers.uk
AMD ATHLON XP2100+ Boxed Inc Heatsink & Fan with 3year Warranty 032545 41 £68.02 £68.02
A7N8X SKT A Nforce2 Chipset Motherboard 044193 16 £74.40 £74.40
I-TEE ATX Case 400w PSU T Shape In Silver 043208 18 £58.65 £58.65 http://www.lope.com.tw/i-tee.htm( waht do think of the case )
Crucial PC2700 512mb DDR 184pin DIMM 042149 6 £73.99 £73.99
Gainward Geforce4 Powerpack Ultra/650-8x Tv/dvi/agp 128mb Ddr Ti-4200 8x Chipset With Tv-out And Dual Crt Or Crt+dvi Output 045467 49 £117.81 £117.81
Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 8 40Gb ATA 133 7200rpm Disk Drive - Oem 040971 646 £46.38 £46.38
Relisys TE770(S) 17ins Silver & Black CRT 0.27dpi 1280x1024 with 3year Onsite Warranty 042031 48 £72.10 £72

total £607

on memory is pc 2700 better than2100 ?
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Old 26th February, 2003, 09:47 PM
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Yes, PC2700 is better than PC2100, but you should get at least PC3200 if you are going for an nForce2 board. Otherwise you won't use the mobo to its full potential. Also, get two 256MB sticks instead of one 512 MB. This will allow the ram to run dual channel.

I highly recommend you save a few pounds and buy yourself a bulk version of the 2100+ CPU. Then get a good heatsink to put on it instead, as the stock heat sink is cr*p.

Thats a very special case you found there, I haven't seen that model before. Doesn't seem to have much room in it, but it sure looks special.
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Old 26th February, 2003, 10:30 PM
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thanks again allan
i do appreciate your help
had a look at some fans and stuff Coolermaster Premium Thermal Compound kit Retail 029906 45 £3.36
Coolermaster HAC-V81 XDream Heatsink & Fan SKT A Upto Xp2800 Speed Adjustment
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=43374
and got a bulk version of the 2100
and split the memory into 256x2
hope to order this stuff over the weekend and get started next week some time ... and see how i get on
next post (help pls i dont know what im doing)
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Old 26th February, 2003, 10:46 PM
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thanks again allan
i do appreciate your help
Don't mention it!

As for the cooler master, I don't know how well it does. If you could get your hands on a Thermalright SLK900, SLK800, SK6 or similar you should be able to get a good overclock, especially if you get a good fan. Its gonna cost you though.

Good luck with your new toys, let us know if we can assist you any further!
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Old 27th February, 2003, 08:37 PM
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I don't think that there's any difference at all between OEM and Retail Boxed XP processors. After all, you need to return the RB'd one's with the original plastic box it came in if you want to RMA the CPU. There's no difference in serial numbers or S-Spec codes between OEM and Retail Boxed versions like there are with SwIntel CPU's.

To the best of my knowledge. Which isn't universal!

RB'd AMD CPU's are APITA to remove from their plastic cocoons. Rather than remove the XP from its plastic gaols the smart way, which is cut, cut, cut--I opened the plastic boxes and was rewarded with three bent pins on the processor for my effort. Duh.

The heatsink that comes with the RB'd version is usable--only if the fan is replaced with one that's at least three times as powerful--to run the CPU at stock. Why AMD, home of the hot proc's, gives you a fan that won't move a small dust bunny is beyond me. Real overclocker's sneer and save the OEM fan for North Bridge duty--if even that.
Reviews of Coolermaster HSF's can be seen at www.dansdata.com .


The price difference between OEM and Retail Boxed versions of most XP's is small. And a manufacturer's three year warranty is more comforting than an etailer's 7, 15 or 30 day warranty!
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Old 28th February, 2003, 03:00 AM
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thanks again cloasters
i do appreciate your help
oh come on now i dont know what to buy
oem or ...l.
you ****ed me head up
i aint no geek just had a few beers
what should i buy you tell me
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for £567 I would get
8rda+
1700+ tbred
2 x 256mb twinmos pc3200
connect 3d radeon 9500 128mb np and try soft mod >9700
q-tec 550w psu
SLK 800
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what should i buy you tell me
I buy my CPU's as OEM, but then again, I get a two year warranty on everything I buy here in Denmark - so with the warranty issue outta the way the choice is very simple to me.

Anyway, if you are going to buy a good heatsink+fan anyway, just go with the OEM.
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I'd go for the following

EPoX 8RDA+ £92
AMD XP2100+ £72
SLK-800 £45
TT Smart FanII £10
1* 512MB PC3200 DDR RAM Samsung £68
LiteOn 52X24X52 CD-RW £42
Liteon 16X40 DVD ROM £27
Either Maxtor or WD Caviar SE 80GB HDD £80
Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro 128MB £135
CTX 17" Flatscreen Monitor £105
JNC 8850 Case £20
Q-tec 550W PSU £22
Total about £720
Look to buy it all from Ebuyer and Scan UK.

You could save a bit here and there, if you already have a monitor, retail CPU (No SLK needed), GF4 Ti4200 64MB... for example. But that would be one kick ass system!

Just out of interest how much would that setup cost you all in the US, Europe and Far East?
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I'd go for the following

EPoX 8RDA+ £92
AMD XP2100+ £72
SLK-800 £45
TT Smart FanII £10
1* 512MB PC3200 DDR RAM Samsung £68
LiteOn 52X24X52 CD-RW £42
Liteon 16X40 DVD ROM £27
Either Maxtor or WD Caviar SE 80GB HDD £80
Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro 128MB £135
CTX 17" Flatscreen Monitor £105
JNC 8850 Case £20
Q-tec 550W PSU £22
Total about £720
Look to buy it all from Ebuyer and Scan UK.

You could save a bit here and there, if you already have a monitor, retail CPU (No SLK needed), GF4 Ti4200 64MB... for example. But that would be one kick ass system!

Just out of interest how much would that setup cost you all in the US, Europe and Far East?
Think he'd be better of getting 2 x 256mb twinmos 3200 for an extra £12 and whilst 2700 Samsung chips are good I have heard that the 3200 ar pretty poor in comparison, I dont know this but apparently Crucial use samsung chips for their new 3200 and they do oc for s..t????? just what Ive heard
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