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Old 7th September, 2003, 07:22 PM
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LAptop without OS

Does anyone know of any reputable retailers seling latops without OS installed? I need a new, up-to-date one but I don't want to pay a bloated price for a microsoft operating system I don't want.

I.E. I don't want a reconditioned one or a second hand one or a "new" ebay one as I may need a warranty to cover the hardware (not bothered about the software which is about all I expect PC world would be able to fix on a laptop anyway).
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Old 8th September, 2003, 06:24 AM
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dell, just get xp home as there $999 model comes with it.... they had some great deals a while back for under $1g !
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Old 12th September, 2003, 08:44 PM
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Thanks. This looks pretty good though I've never heard of some of those brands. I might not bother anyway - probably just take my main rig ot uni - can't play HL2 without the 9800pro and i don't think they put them in laptops...
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oh and they don't seem to ship to the UK
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Old 12th September, 2003, 08:53 PM
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if anyone is looking for the same thing for linux or whatever, i just found novatech.co.uk who give u no OS as standard and then XPhome or XP pro costs extra.
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Thanks. This looks pretty good though I've never heard of some of those brands. I might not bother anyway - probably just take my main rig ot uni - can't play HL2 without the 9800pro and i don't think they put them in laptops...
Sager is the oldest laptop company still in business.

and all the major companies (dell, compaq/hp, alienware, voodoopc, etc) dont make laptops, they just buy them from the companies that do make them, slap a fancy color on them and call them their own.
Take a read:
http://www.powernotebooks.com/Name_Brand.php3
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um... not sure if I would trust powernotebooks 100%. I poked around and found this:

http://www.powernotebooks.com/P4_Truth.php3

Sounds pretty cool... but they seem to mix up some facts. Doesn't instill too much confidence. The very first line:
"Back in the dark ages (maybe 3 years ago), desktop processors ran at 3.3Volts and were therefore hot... "

Well, even going back 6-7 years ago, the old P2 Katmai core ran on 2.0-2.3v. I think the original Pentium (60/66) may have run on 3.3v, but don't quote me... I think that's more like 9 years ago. (the text isn't old, it's copyrighted 2002)
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um... not sure if I would trust powernotebooks 100%. I poked around and found this:
They can be trusted 100% (ok well 99.9% )

http://www.resellerratings.com/selle...seller_id=1980

9.99 reseller rating
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Indeed they do seem a little confused, voltage isnt the main cause of the heat produced. Its combined with the current it draws, and modern cpu's pull alot more than the old ones the p4 at 1.5v pulls over 50A to give its output of about 70-80w The original Pentium which was quite ritely on 3.3V drew around 10A giving it outputs of around 30-35w. Much lower than the current beasts which throws there argument mostly away.

As current is fairly constant voltage does matter on the same design chip, and so a reduction by 1/3 voltage will drop output power by around the same (also effects the power used up by the chip)

The ulv P3M's were very good on batteries and the Pentium 4M / M and the centrino are good on there bat's the desktop cpu will just munch its batteries like there is no tomorrow.

as for 80% of users keeping it on mains. Mine was quite frequently on its battery i'd say 4/5 times i used it, it was under its own power. Now that its had some screen issues its sitting in a draw on my desk now :-\

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