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Old 5th January, 2004, 03:24 AM
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2-2-2-11 faster than 2-2-2-5 is this true??

hi, i have just seen this article on http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=133 this site claiming that after doing a series of tests, they found the ram timings 2-2-2-11 to be faster than 2-2-2-5 and other tested times.

can anyone here say this is true?

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Old 5th January, 2004, 03:53 AM
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hi, i have just seen this article on http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=133 this site claiming that after doing a series of tests, they found the ram timings 2-2-2-11 to be faster than 2-2-2-5 and other tested times.

can anyone here say this is true?

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For me it is- see
http://forums.amdmb.com/showthread.php?threadid=237991
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James, you'd find that if you'd done a search on AOA, we pretty much documented the same thing back in September last year (I think!)

Basically, the last figure operates the opposite to the way most people would expect it to do. It's basically a timer used to set how long before the RAM controller stops doing things. For a 2-2-2 configuration, a value of 5 is too short for the RAM controller to get going. Setting up 2-2-2-7 should be about right. 2-2-2-11 is a little long, but won't hurt performance too much.

Think of it as the sum of the earlier figures plus one.
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Its true for me on both my systems................run the benchmarks on your system and prove it to yourself.
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A little bit faster, yes.
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I've found the fastest timings, it's 12-2-1-2 even faster than 11-2-2-2 but I was forced to rise Dimm voltage to 2.77V to operate stable.
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well obviously my system doesn't like them settings does that happen or have i got bad ram or something? am currently running 2-2-2-6 fine, so i changed it to 2-2-2-11 so see if was ok (which i didn't think it wouldn't be) and my system boots ok, but after a few mins it keeps restarting on its own all the time, so have put it back to 2-2-2-6 and its fine again?

anyone know why it would bdo that, i thought if you relax the settings its better.

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i changed it to 2-2-2-11 so see if was ok (which i didn't think it wouldn't be) and my system boots ok, but after a few mins it keeps restarting on its own all the time

anyone know why it would bdo that, i thought if you relax the settings its better.

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It's really strange ... i've heard that some people that changed from 6-2-2-2 to 11-2-2-2 could lower the voltage and it works perfect ... try to rise the Dimms voltage if you can - maybe it'll give you stability. From the other hand the difference in memory bandwitch isn't that great so if you can't operate stable just leave at 6-2-2-2.
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sorry this problem is due to something else which i havnt gopt a clue what, lol

ive had my system runnin none stop for about a week without restarting it and i did to change the ram setting so i originaly thought was that, but my system is still doin it since ive changed the settings back.

not sure what it is everytime i have a program runnin for a while its just rebooting.
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