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Old 18th April, 2004, 05:23 AM
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Overclocking Shuttle

im just curious as to what the overclocking potential of a shuttle computer is.
im planning to buy one for college ( i know, its still a long way off) but im thinking ahead.
im probably going to get a barebones system similar to this: http://www.directron.com/sn45g.html
purchased sometime during the summer.

so.. how well do these OC?
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Old 18th April, 2004, 01:55 PM
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I helped a friend with his...
No multiplier control or voltage control, but we knew the 1700+ could do about 2ghz, so I used the pin trick to change the multiplier and upp'd the voltage. And the system worked fine. It did have FSB control, so we were able to fine tune the oc.

The best part about it was the HSF... excellent for a low noise solution.
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looks like they have multi controls now too:
http://www.shuttle.com/share/fae/hq/...readmefn45.htm
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just read the manual for the above system, they offer voltage control for the CPU too.

i also saw in the manual that there is possible enough room in there to fit a slk-xxx heatsink. my question ism would there be any height restricstions for the heatsink?
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Not owning a Shuttle myself, I can only guess. But from looking at SteveI's pictures of the one that he did, I'm thinking that by the time you get a big 'ol heat sink like that in there, and then stick a fan on top of it, you won't be able to get the side panel on.

Maybe cut a hole in the side panel and make a riser, like for a dual-four carb and turbo on your car?
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i also saw in the manual that there is possible enough room in there to fit a slk-xxx heatsink. my question ism would there be any height restricstions for the heatsink?
Depends if you want a DVD/CD drive in there or not. If you do, it's a bit more difficult. The other thing you want to be aware of is that the fan on the radiator on the Shuttles is the only fan keeping the system cool. The PSU fan is only just big enough to keep the PSU warm, not cool the system.

I have an SN45G, however it's dedicated to running MythTV under Gentoo Linux.
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Yup, I can't remember the model number for my friend's toaster, but the cooling is actually very good. The pipe is filled with liquid and is effective liquid cooling for the CPU. As Aedan points out, the 8cm fan on the radiator is doing double duty, cooling the liquid in the radiator as well as circulating air through the case. This HSF assembly is actually one of the best points about shuttle box's, and so if you get one, take advantage of it.
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seeing how i just unboxed a sn45g....shuttles have it all....if ya get the nforce chipset.
new procs may not be unlocked anymore tho(so i found out today).
as i fnish building i'll let you know...it's a client's pc so i wont take it to far though...just a small box for gaming when gone from home.
***** beep...the heatsink is HEAVY...looks light..but i think main reason for system weight.
slk in here?
are you nuts?
all the extra hot air been circulated scares me on that.
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Let's take this front page and see if we can get a few more opinions!
but i cant access the front page, it takes me straight to the forums
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well, i got this 2600 to 202x10....inside temps rose a little more than i like(to 45)....
my only recommendation as the box is on the way out the door today is to put some sort of exhaust fan in there should you be using and overclocked vid card.
i don't think the inside temps are accurate, but there isn't alot of air coming out the back...i tried lowering the speed of the inside fan and found that the heatsink fan slighty decreases the airflow of the PSU fan. The PSU also put out way lees heat than a standard psu.
all i can think of is the POS emachines case i use now with no airflow...but with one pci slot you could probably get a vga silencer in there that would make everything nice and cool.
never try to assemble the heatsink and mem with the mobo outside the case....it make my life more difficult.
optical drives make installation way more difficult...where this is usually the first thing i put in a case, with a shuttle it's the last.
Great box tho...it'll be the next pc i buy even with the problems...they were really only inconvieniences
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The pipe is filled with liquid and is effective liquid cooling for the CPU.
Actually, there's four pipes, and each one is a seperate heatpipe leading up to the fins of the 'radiator'. It seems to work relatively well, although I have mine underclocked to maintain the minimum of noise.
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Actually, there's four pipes, and each one is a seperate heatpipe leading up to the fins of the 'radiator'. It seems to work relatively well, although I have mine underclocked to maintain the minimum of noise.
whoa
wait a sec
the heatsink i installed last night had 2 pipes....
yours has four?
wtf?
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Having just said that, you could well be right - I'll check when I get home again! It might well be just two!
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Having just said that, you could well be right - I'll check when I get home again! It might well be just two!
please please please let me know as this machine is for a customer...not me.
it would explain the high temps i got tho....i've got 4 hours to complete this mess!
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would it improve temps if i were to cut out that "fan grill" behind the radiator thing

... oh.. duh it would.

um, Daniel, forgive my apparent blindness, but i cant find your post.
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