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Old 18th July, 2008, 04:09 PM
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Corsair and the exploding PSUs

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Old 18th July, 2008, 06:20 PM
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Have to wonder who brand X is. I do recognise the design of the internals though, it's pretty generic cheap Chinese. As to why they paid so much for them, I'm not quite so sure! UK prices would put a generic 450W PSU for between £4 - £8 vs £45 for a Corsair PSU.

Corsair also removed the lid from the PSU which would have disrupted the cooling of the PSU.
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Old 18th July, 2008, 08:36 PM
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Why should I buy a boring PSU that doesn't explode? Need some action around here, it gets slow sometimes.





Kidding! I only buy high quality and unfortunately expensive power supplies.
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Old 19th July, 2008, 01:47 PM
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Cynically, I can't help asking if that shot of a coolermaster box in the third experiment was an accident???
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That was funny...LOL
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You really know how to make a guy nervous don't ya?
I'm not really nervous. This PowerUp 385w is not being stressed so It should be OK. [I wish I would have put my PowerMagic 350w in instead. It has been a good work horse for years, OC'ing and all.]When the finances are a little looser around this house, I want to start OC'ing this E4300 but to do that I need to upgrade some more. Namely a PSU & HSF. I was going to buy the HSF first [Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro] but I think the PSU just went to to the top of the list! Recommendations?
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Three I have used personally, I prefer single rail PSU's with good 12v amperage, not much is pulled off the 5v and 3v rails these days so you want to make sure most of your wattage is coming from the 12v side.

Newegg.com - XCLIO GOODPOWER 500W 500W ATX Power Supply 115/ 230 V UL, CUL, TUV, CB, VDE, FIMKO, DEMKO, NEMKO, SEMKO - Power Supplies

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 Power Supply 90 - 264 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick - Power Supplies

Newegg.com - PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, cUL, CE, CB, RoHS - Power Supplies
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Old 19th July, 2008, 08:37 PM
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ThermalTake ToughPower 750w

So far this PSU ThermalTake ToughPower 750w is working perfectly & I'm always stressing it playing graphics & shader intensive games, encoding movie files & compressing decompressing files.
It also has a rating of 85% power efficiency.
($139.99 after $50.00 Mail-In rebate)
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Thanks cc for those recommendations. When the time comes [maybe next month?] The Corsair 450w or the XCLIO GOODPOWER 500w looks like I might be able to pull off! Maybe 1/2 next month and 1/2 in Sept.
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Thanks for a recommendation but that's way out of my price range. It's very tight here.
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I found this on pricewatch. The Brand isn't on my black list, specs are good, price is something I can pull out of the hat next month. The 64 dollar question-anyone know anything about it?

ChiefMax 650 Watt ATX Switching Power Supply w/ SATA Connector
Click to enlarge Condition: New
Packaging: Retail Box
3B Tech Warranty: 1 year

PS-CM-650W-24PIN-V2
Price: $ 22.99
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Chiefmax power supplies are a consumer line of products specifically designed for end users. For commercial quality products, please see our Viotek line of power supplies.
General Features:

* 650-watts total
* ATX form factor
* Ideal for Pentium 4 processors and AMD Athlon processors
* Over-current protection
* Over-temperature protection
* 12-inch ATX power connector
* 12-inch 12V connector
* Four (4) 12-inch power connectors
* Two (2) floppy drive connection
* One (1) Serial ATA Connector

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* 115V ~ 10A/60 Hz
* 230V ~ 6A/50 Hz
* +5V at 36A
* +12V at 34A
* +3.3V at 36A
* -5V at 1A
* -12V at 1A
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Probably best to let that deal pass you by. johnnyguru tested it and a number of budget psu's. Might look through his tests and see if there is something worth picking up though.

JonnyGURU.com - Power Supply Reviews and more! - Reviews - The Bargain Basement Power Supply Roundup
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Probably best to let that deal pass you by. johnnyguru tested it and a number of budget psu's. Might look through his tests and see if there is something worth picking up though.

JonnyGURU.com - Power Supply Reviews and more! - Reviews - The Bargain Basement Power Supply Roundup
I hate it when that happens!
Thanks for that. Da** ya just can't tell. I'm going to give in and get the 500w from Newegg you brought up earlier in this thread.
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You really know how to make a guy nervous don't ya?
I'm not really nervous. This PowerUp 385w is not being stressed so It should be OK. [I wish I would have put my PowerMagic 350w in instead. It has been a good work horse for years, OC'ing and all.]When the finances are a little looser around this house, I want to start OC'ing this E4300 but to do that I need to upgrade some more. Namely a PSU & HSF. I was going to buy the HSF first [Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro] but I think the PSU just went to to the top of the list! Recommendations?
I used one Chinese 450W cheapest ever PSU with my 8800 and 4300@3Ghz for about 6 months. +1TVcard+creativecard+2hdd+raid card+dvdwr and until I got this 600W I had no issues. So those explosions seems a bit inducted if you get me
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I used one Chinese 450W cheapest ever PSU with my 8800 and 4300@3Ghz for about 6 months. +1TVcard+creativecard+2hdd+raid card+dvdwr and until I got this 600W I had no issues. So those explosions seems a bit inducted if you get me
I agree with you. They probably are just a wee bit contrived, infact I guarantee they are!
And I have to much to risk on a PSU I know has a bad rep.
Do you care to know how i know that the dice are loaded for these tests?
Tell you anyway.
If a restaurant is serving bad food, the street knows it right now and that place has no customers.
If a company builds PSU's in such a shoddy manner that they blow up at the first sign of stress, everyone would know in a matter of days if not weeks. They couldn't use them for land fill.
And I'm not buying one.
I've got a 350w that has handled an OC'ed xp 2400+ , 2HDD's, 4 to 5 USB devices, vid card of cource. It has done a remarkable job. It's not going in to OC the E4300.
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I think Chris was saying that the failures of all of those components were induced by that not so great PSU.
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I think Chris was saying that the failures of all of those components were induced by that not so great PSU.
Ok why is it sometimes I just miss it? It's a wonder.
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Don't feel like the lone stranger, missing the essence is easy for me too.
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Three I have used personally, I prefer single rail PSU's with good 12v amperage, not much is pulled off the 5v and 3v rails these days so you want to make sure most of your wattage is coming from the 12v side.

Newegg.com - XCLIO GOODPOWER 500W 500W ATX Power Supply 115/ 230 V UL, CUL, TUV, CB, VDE, FIMKO, DEMKO, NEMKO, SEMKO - Power Supplies
Just recieved this PSU from Newegg. The first thing that is very appearant is the weight. It's 1/2 agian as heavy as any other PSU I have. The other is the size of the fan. They put as large a fan as they could get inside the case. Iknow it doesn't make any difference, but it's a pretty black too!

Thanks for the recomendation ccp.
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I used one Chinese 450W cheapest ever PSU with my 8800 and 4300@3Ghz for about 6 months. +1TVcard+creativecard+2hdd+raid card+dvdwr and until I got this 600W I had no issues. So those explosions seems a bit inducted if you get me
The question is not just will it fail, but when will it fail?

I wouldn't be so concerned about using a cheap PSU, if it is quite new. But once it gets over a year old, I'd be paranoid about it.
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The question is not just will it fail, but when will it fail?

I wouldn't be so concerned about using a cheap PSU, if it is quite new. But once it gets over a year old, I'd be paranoid about it.
But when you can't replace what you might loose it puts a little different spin on things.
I'm not concerened about useing one, just OC'ing with one.
I do have a cheep 385w that is brand new doing the job now. I did cave and bumped it from 800 to 1066 with no other changes. i didn't feel to bad about that and it gave me 1.80GHz @ 2.40GHz with no strain at all. I'll put this one in tomarrow as there is to much involved to start that today. But we are good to go!
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