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Old 1st August, 2008, 04:34 PM
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Blu-ray to rule by 2011

Blu-ray backer Sony has announced that the format’s likely to outsell DVD globally in 2011, with over 5m Blu-ray discs having been sold around the world this year already.

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I think that's optimistic.
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Blu-Ray will be in 2011 what DVD is today....Second rate....
By 2011 we will see more formats with higher resolutions than just 1080p, not to mention that Multimedia players will be the solution of the future based on Downloaded content by film companies.
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I thought this an interesting indicator of possibilities to come...

http://www.aoaforums.com/frontpage/content/view/4355/1/

But I think Blue Ray will have fairly long legs, we do need some standardization of storage formats or collectors will grow unhappy...":O}
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Old 3rd August, 2008, 06:20 PM
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Blu-Ray will be in 2011 what DVD is today....Second rate....
By 2011 we will see more formats with higher resolutions than just 1080p, not to mention that Multimedia players will be the solution of the future based on Downloaded content by film companies.
Blu-ray is just a disc, with a 50GB capacity, you can store video at whatever resolution you like on those discs.

Blu-ray is not a file format for movies.
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50-100GB will not suffice for future formats....
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Old 3rd August, 2008, 11:36 PM
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50GB is enough to store 9 hours of video using the current HD standard.

So, even if you were to double the resolution, you would still get about 4.5 hours worth of video on there.
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It's a mess...
Most people don't even know the standards.... Just look at TVs. 1080p,720p, and still a lot of 480p(ED) on the market.

Companies won't even go to 1080p for BluRay since many TVs can't handle it.... And the movie industry is loathe to offer effective DL capabilities without extensive protection.

There are way too many variables of greed here.... Motion Picture Industry, PC/tech industry, TV makers.... factor in the greed, and it is a crap shoot on what we will see marketed to the masses 3 years from now. Whatever it is, it will be a concerted effort to milk consumers of the most cash possible.
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I just upscale h264 rips and am perfectly happy with that..
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50GB is enough to store 9 hours of video using the current HD standard.

So, even if you were to double the resolution, you would still get about 4.5 hours worth of video on there.
There are already 3xxxX3xxx standards in research for quite a few years in comparison to the 1920x1080 standard of 1080p....Although 50-100GB may suffice Pioneer and SONY are already discussing to add a few more layers to BRay to make it go up to 500GBs...However its not just a storage thing....Im sure that for higher resolutions the format supported by Blu-Ray will not be supported....Perhaps it could but i think that companies will make sure it dont....Thats just the way things are.
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There are already 3xxxX3xxx standards in research for quite a few years in comparison to the 1920x1080 standard of 1080p....Although 50-100GB may suffice Pioneer and SONY are already discussing to add a few more layers to BRay to make it go up to 500GBs...However its not just a storage thing....Im sure that for higher resolutions the format supported by Blu-Ray will not be supported....Perhaps it could but i think that companies will make sure it dont....Thats just the way things are.

400 gigs but even at 400 how long of a d$mn movie are you going to watch all star wars in 1080p x 5?

Hmm good idea Box sets on one disc in multiple formats :P

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During a symposium on optical storage in Hawaii last month, Pioneer Electronics unveiled the specifications for a 16-layer Blu-ray Disc with as much as 400 GB capacity. However the company was surprised to find that the symposium had set forth for 500 GB by no later than 2012......
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Of course it's not just a case of having a new larger capacity disc and a higher-res TV monitor.

The stuff you're watching needs to be shot and/or mastered at that resolution.

As we are, not that many movies and programmes are 100% true 1080p from start to finish.

Cinema movies which have been remastered from the original analogue projector film, at 1080p, do look pretty close to what you see in a cinema, as far as fine detail goes. But, I think the colour is still a bit lacking. The colour range is not as wide.

1080p is enough, unless you have a living room 100 feet long and want a 20 foot wide TV screen. But the overall quality and colour needs to be improved.
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There and bandwidth and processing limitations as well, from memory, 1080P @ 30fps commonly ends up being 20Mbit+ on its own. If the same movie used 10 times the storage space you'd be looking at 200Mbit+ just to read it, at very high quality you could end up with 1000M bitrate video. The power already required for 1080p is already very high and it only gets worse and worse as the quality increases.
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