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Old 19th June, 2009, 07:03 PM
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Why Doesn't Anyone Want a Blu-ray Player?

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Friday, 19 June 2009
Blu-ray may have won the war against HD-DVD, but American consumers aren't exactly warming to the high-definition disc format.

Jeff Bertolucci
Jun 18, 2009 11:29 am
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According to a new Harris Poll, more U.S. homes have a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player compared to a year ago, but adoption is slow. Only 7 percent of Americans own a Blu-ray player, up from 4 percent in 2008; while 11 percent have an HD-DVD unit, up from 6 percent a year ago. [Front page...]
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Blu-ray movies are still over-priced, but that will change, especially when there's substantial cheap second-hand supplies out there.

Bought Bond movie Quantum of Solance recently for £9.98 new, which isn't so bad for a fairly new movie.

Quantum of Solace [Blu-ray] [2008]: Amazon.co.uk: Daniel Craig, Olga Kurylenko, Mathieu Amalric, Judi Dench, Gemma Arterton, Jeffrey Wright, Giancarlo Giannini, Jesper Christensen, Joaquin Cosio, Marc Forster: DVD
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I've got quite a few bluray discs for my PS3. Eagerly awaiting Star Trek's release =)
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Old 20th June, 2009, 12:00 PM
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I'll get a Blu-ray player when the price comes down more.
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I, as yet, see no reason to spend the money on blue ray. The fact that I know very little about it tells me that I don't need to know to much about it.
It might become dominant but it better hurry because in the tech world, someone or something is coming up your back side real fast. I think something new and better will hit the market befor I need blue ray.
This is said with a caveat-I could be wrong.
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Roughly a third of Costco's discs on offer are suddenly Blu-Ray. Looks like most of them will rot on the shelves. I hear that Blu-Ray is fantastic, but it costs a LOT to make the switch. HDTV that will display Blu-Ray properly and the player. That's some real cash.
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It really depends on how you get to the Blu-Ray player. Yes, you need an HDTV to notice any benefit from Blu-Ray, but roughly half of all american households now have at least one HDTV, and the rest will likely switch within the next 3 years.

I bought my Blu-Ray player with my PS3. Honestly, I wouldn't have bought a Blu-Ray player outright, but getting one with my PS3 made the whole thing a bargain (since the BR player was something I wanted anyway).

Having looked at both BR and DVD side-by-side, if you get video that was actually MASTERED at a resolution that BR can take advantage of, and not just a DVD converted to BR format, the difference is absolutely stunning.

I've got both Iron Man and The Dark Night in both DVD and BR formats, and it literally is almost like watching two different movies.

There are, however, two big problems for BR:
  1. When DVD came out, the value proposition over VHS was obvious: no more bulky tapes, thus easier to store. Not so with BR vs. DVD.
  2. Online content delivery: I can get the same video quality as in BR for the cost of a download via an interent connection that I already have.

Oddly enough, the folks who have not yet upgraded to HDTV may end up being the ones who end up buying BR players. I strongly suspect that most of the folks who already have HDTV but don't have a BR player are in that boat because they also have decent broadband internet, whereas those who haven't upgraded to HDTV yet probably DON'T have decent broadband, thus making BR a more likely choice for them.

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I, as yet, see no reason to spend the money on blue ray. The fact that I know very little about it tells me that I don't need to know to much about it.
It might become dominant but it better hurry because in the tech world, someone or something is coming up your back side real fast. I think something new and better will hit the market befor I need blue ray.
This is said with a caveat-I could be wrong.
I don't see anything better coming along any time soon.

Yes, technology easily allows for much higher resolution video. But, the problem is that even 1080p is a serious headache for Hollywood, etc. because is shows up flaws in the details of sets, make-up, special effects, etc.

They won't want to film stuff in any more detail than the current HD provides. It would be far too expensive for them.
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It really depends on how you get to the Blu-Ray player. Yes, you need an HDTV to notice any benefit from Blu-Ray, but roughly half of all american households now have at least one HDTV, and the rest will likely switch within the next 3 years.

I bought my Blu-Ray player with my PS3. Honestly, I wouldn't have bought a Blu-Ray player outright, but getting one with my PS3 made the whole thing a bargain (since the BR player was something I wanted anyway).

Having looked at both BR and DVD side-by-side, if you get video that was actually MASTERED at a resolution that BR can take advantage of, and not just a DVD converted to BR format, the difference is absolutely stunning.

I've got both Iron Man and The Dark Night in both DVD and BR formats, and it literally is almost like watching two different movies.

There are, however, two big problems for BR:
  1. When DVD came out, the value proposition over VHS was obvious: no more bulky tapes, thus easier to store. Not so with BR vs. DVD.
  2. Online content delivery: I can get the same video quality as in BR for the cost of a download via an interent connection that I already have.

Oddly enough, the folks who have not yet upgraded to HDTV may end up being the ones who end up buying BR players. I strongly suspect that most of the folks who already have HDTV but don't have a BR player are in that boat because they also have decent broadband internet, whereas those who haven't upgraded to HDTV yet probably DON'T have decent broadband, thus making BR a more likely choice for them.
Same. I don't think I would have invested in a BluRay player if I didn't have my PS3s. I don't think prices of disks are really a problem. From what I've seen, BR disks don't really cost THAT much more than DVDs. Maybe a quid or two on the sites I've seen.

That being said, it actually seems a lot more cost efficient to build a home theatre PC with a BluRay player (which you could probably pick up for about 35/40 pounds) and set that up in your lounge/living room.

I think the majority of people are just happy with DVDs at the moment. No-one thought DVDs were of poor quality until BluRay's came out. Now I won't watch anything but BluRays!
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Same same, came with PS3. Not being much of a collector I rent from time time, as BlueRay and DVD are rented at the same price, renting Blue Ray was the natural thing to do!

But in the last year or so I doubt we've rented a dozen movies, so my experience isn't vast. But I was very impressed!! Dark Knight...WOW!":O}
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Don't have an HDTV, infact still have a 29inch 4:3 CRT TV, it weighs 54kg (~120pounds) and has to be strapped to its cabinet. It does 480p, and was bought 5 years ago for $1500NZ. I would have to spash out over $3000 for a relatively equivalent LCD HDTV today.

A PC DVD recorder that does every DVD format can be had for ~$45NZ, a dedicated 480p DVD Recorder with 160GB HDD can be had for as little as $300NZ

The cheapest PC BD player is $260NZ and recorder is $380NZ, the cheapest dedicated player is $500NZ, I can't find a BD recorder.

On top of that, the media is roughly twice a smuch.

Why would I buy a BD player or HDTV?
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I was just at Waly world the other day and saw that they have a Blue ray player for only $128. I still need a TV though. So ya for me, it was be a cost thing. New tv to work with the blue ray as well as the player as well as the cable(s).

Just not in the cards right now as my youngest just got home for the summer and most of my money will be spent to have fun with her.
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[*]Online content delivery: I can get the same video quality as in BR for the cost of a download via an internet connection that I already have.[/list]
I've not come across anyone offering the same video quality as BR yet. I've come across vendors offering "HD" resolutions, but that doesn't mean a lot. It may be that I'm out of the loop a bit, but most of the "HD" content I've come across on the net hasn't really had suitable bitrates.
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Why would I buy a BD player or HDTV?
To get the PS3 game console and play games in HD? ":O}

What would a PS3 set you back?
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To get the PS3 game console and play games in HD? ":O}

What would a PS3 set you back?
Well the very basic 80GB PS3 with additional remote would cost approx $745NZ. This is the version that doesn't even try to be compatable with PS2 games.

As for console games. The Wii (which I currently own) has the types of console games I play. The more involved games I own should never be ported to a console. No matter what they have tried, Command and Conquer is pure shyte on any console I have played. Sins of a Solar Empire most likely couldn't be played. Privateer 2: The Darkening, couldn't possibly be played on a console, let alone anything similar and newer.

The other thing, is that I would have to splash out ~$3k NZ on a new TV. Not only am I not willing to splash out that much at this time, it is twice as much as I paid for a TV 5 years ago.
Also no point in saving for a TV when we are leaving the country in approximately 6 months.
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I don't have a HDTV as such, I just use my 24" monitor which has HDMI inputs. It's big enough for one or two people, to watch a blu-ray movie.

Actual HDTVs seem to be over-priced, when compared to monitors, even though they're they same thing.
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Coming where all kiwis end up eventually?
Nope, wont be going to Bondi beach, looking at Melbourne instead
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