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Old 30th September, 2002, 10:57 PM
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Rattling WD drive

I have a small problem with my newly purchased Western Digital 8 MB cache 80 GB hard drive (JB). On boot, and for the first 5 minutes (till its nice and warm) the drive "rattles". Not very loud, but loud enough for me to hear it. Then, it settles down a bit, and the rattling almost goes away.

It wasn't like this when I got it, it only started behaving like this a couple of days ago. What gives? Is the hard drive going bad?

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Old 1st October, 2002, 12:08 AM
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It's hard to say, but it certainly isn't going good. I'd consider RMA now before it gets worse.
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Old 1st October, 2002, 12:35 AM
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That was what I was thinking as well.. but I'll wait to see if anyone has another idea. Thanks for the reply.
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Old 1st October, 2002, 12:43 AM
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I have the same drive and I thought that the drive was doing this as well, but it just turned out it was one of the fans on my vantec hdd cooler dying. Make sure its for sure the hdd
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Old 1st October, 2002, 12:54 AM
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Trust me, its the hard drive. I've tried disconnecting all fans. Hard drive still rattled. I've tried to move it around in the case, heck, even had it hanging in the wires at some point. It still rattles..

Weird.
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Old 1st October, 2002, 01:28 AM
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What's going on with new drives!
Seems there's a reason why everyone is going with a 1 year warrantee tomorrow.

Don't RMA yet, but back everything up. Odds are, if it hasn't failed already, they won't want to take it back but it's worth a shot.... Just keep your data safe.

I have 2 2 year old 7200rpm WDs. Relatively quiet, and never a problem. If they made funny noises, I'd know about it.
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What's going on with new drives!
I read a few stories a few years back about what was then the 'newest technology' regarding hard drives. There was a sort or see through looking crystal that contains NO moving parts at all. It looks like a big chunk of glass really. It was intersected by 3 independant multi headed lasers that have an near nothing access time. The cube neasures 3" x 3" square and held 10 terabytes of storage (did I spell that right?)

I've been looking for information on this routinely since then and have come up bone dry. I'm sure of its existance though because of the amount of information I was able to find about it back then. It's already common knowledge that there are glass platters that can hole several times the amount of data currently available on the metallic ones and are virtually silent using multi headed lasers to read them.

Hard drives are very slow to evolve simply because there is no real demand for the rapid advancement of them as we, the end user, know it. We only seen very small boosts in performance from what I guess to be the lack of push in the marketplace for high speed storage. Fixed storage is still quite expensive and I'm sure will remain this way for years to come. It's only in the somewhat far future that we will see any advancement or 'new technology' released to the consumer. We seem to be more concerned with portability and mobility than anything else at this point in time. If I can find anymore information on the storage I read about back then, I'll surely post it so we can all get in the know about it.
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Yeah, it's been a while since I heard much about it. IBM's been working hard on it, but hasn't done anything commercial with it yet! IBM/Rockwell Scientific demoed a system that could store 250gigabits/square inch, and had transfer rates of ~1.25GByte/sec. That was in 1999/2000.

Lucent spun off InPhase Technologies who are working hard on commecialising holographic storage. They have already announced their Tapestry drive, which is a holographic storage system. They were looking at volume shipments in 2004. The heart of the system is a 100Gb holographic storage system, running at approx 20MB/sec.

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I think they had some info on this in a past Maxuimum PC and I too have heard nothing of this since (we're definitely a few years away form this ).

Allan, silly suggestion, but I've heard of this working...

Put the harddrive in a ziplock, throw it in the freezer for 2 hours. Rinse, repeat.
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I'm glad others have heard of this also. I was going out on a limb there since I haven't found any news on it for a long time. I'll be checkin the link you popped up there AidanII, thx

Alan, sorry I jumped in on your problem like that, but I just thought I'd share some kewl info I'd RMA the puppy just to be sure
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Old 1st October, 2002, 01:35 PM
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Pinky, for real? In the freezer?

Maybe its worth a shot, but I don't see how it could help.

Thanks anyway.

Unclemojo: No problem!
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between spode and myself weve gotten 4 bad(clunking) WD drives over 80 gigs in the past 3 months. Out of 2 4-drive RAID-5's I built last month, each had a bad drive, thats 25% DOA!. not sure if its a trend, but I'll almost gaurantee its shipping damage, I wonder if they are just a bit more fragile?
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WD are supposed to be fragile, such a pity since the 8mb cache cavier is blisteringly fast

25% DOA is rediculous, no way that they are letting quality control slip, so perhaps WD should sue mail companies etc for costing em a load in returned defective drives?
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Old 1st October, 2002, 05:02 PM
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Well, it was fine when I first got it. It stops rattling after a while..
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wierd, perhaps the bearing need to be warm to be the correct size or something?
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in an arthur c clarke book (possibly 3001) he mentions storage being on glass cubes.
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Uh...glass cubes sound fascinating. I'm really having a tough time seeing how they will survive the rigorous environment of the USPS, that's where it all goes.....tinkle, tinkle, tinkle.
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Uh...glass cubes sound fascinating. I'm really having a tough time seeing how they will survive the rigorous environment of the USPS, that's where it all goes.....tinkle, tinkle, tinkle.
Good thing they're working on polymer (plastic) cubes instead then isn't it?

Mind you, IBM's hard disk platters are made of glass.

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Arthur C Clarke, now theres one clever dude, lots of respect to him.
Now, wasn't he the bloke who suggested that people would put stuff up in orbit in order to communicate. Satellites I think they call them..

That's pretty impressive.

I just hope the world doesn't go all Gibson-esq!

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Well, it was fine when I first got it. It stops rattling after a while..
Are you sure its screwed in there tight enough? but not too tight. Some of my hdds if i screw them into the bay too tight they wont work. If they are too loose it might produce a rattling sound, no clue why it would quit after a while so that must mean the hdd but just make sure
I would phone up WD and tell them the problem and see what they say, They might just say send it to them.
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