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dsio 12th August, 2005 04:12 PM

SATA RAID 0 once I get the second disk. Im interested to see how a total of 32Mb of cache effects things :).

Never had my own RAID array before so I am interested in how it does. Its going to be alot of disk space too. im still using a 60GB and a 30GB at the moment, and almost full, so 600GB will be a nice step up. I think I will make them my only hard disks.

By the way, you can turn the speed down on them, an make them completely silent using the maxtor utils. There is also a program somewhere that ties HDD speed and noise to the current CPU usage, meaning at idle, the HDD spins slowly, and under load the HDDs peak.

Razorfish 12th August, 2005 04:26 PM

I heard that on maxtors there is a utility call AAM which reduces the noise of the hard sisks, but to be honest Dsio, i dont think you will need to use it, my to discs are silent!

dsio 12th August, 2005 04:32 PM

Yea, but its always nice to have anyway. I cant really say how loud it is because whenever I have used the 300 it has been with heaps of fans and a pair of Maxtor 9s in the case along with a raptor 36 sometimes.

Razorfish 12th August, 2005 04:37 PM

Dump that raptor, im seriously thinking about selling mine on ebay and buying a 300GB maxtor 10 to set up a massive Raid 5 array on an XFX revo64.

dsio 12th August, 2005 04:41 PM

the 16MB cache is very enticing :)

The raptor is already out of service. Its sitting in the linux box now folding, apacheing and doing little else. Sits in the garage where it can keep the roaches awake at night instead of me.

Razorfish 12th August, 2005 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by dsio
Sits in the garage where it can keep the roaches awake at night instead of me.

:D :D :D

so true, so true!

hoinar 12th August, 2005 04:58 PM

As i know, the small Raptors (wd36 -> 36 GB) are not as fast as bigger brother (wd74 -> 74 GB) and a Raid 0 setup with WD74 is still faster than any other as I see in reviews and benchmarks (I don't include here SATA II disks because I don't have enough info) we talk about speed...WD74 is no dead at all..but if we look at capacity, than yes...they are overwhelmed :)
For me a killer rig would still have a Raid 0 setup with WD74 Raptors.

dsio 12th August, 2005 05:06 PM

I really dont know. The 16MB cache X 2 in RAID 0 might have a bigger effect than you think.

8MB cache Maxtor 10s perform on about a level field with the raptors in many areas, losing in some cases, winning in some cases. The 16MB cache should be a smoother hard disk for general use, while the Raptor would be better in continuous use.

The 16MB models in RAID 0 are considered on par, and sometimes faster than raptors. And they dont keep you up at night. People who see the specs and have not heard the noise think they can handle it, but its the grating painfull tone of the thing that drives you crazy.

Razorfish 12th August, 2005 05:08 PM

I agree, as most top spec gaming PC include WD Raptors, but seriuosly speed isnt everything! And personally owning a WD raptor i could even begin to imagine the damage done to my insanity by two WD raptors in Raid, the noise would be unberable! you ask anyone who has a raptor and they will complain about the noise they produce! Ill stick to my maxtors thankyou. :D

hoinar 12th August, 2005 05:16 PM

Lol...than ask Gizmo how does he resist with his SCSI Raid :D
Honnestly...I stayed in a room with a computer with 7-8 SCSI hdds...and in a few hours I didn't even hear them..:)..but I must admit..if that computer would get into my room at home I'd throw it off the window :D

Razorfish 12th August, 2005 05:22 PM

ill take a sound recording of my raptor loading a game and youll see what me and dsio are on about!

Razorfish 13th August, 2005 02:11 PM

Well ive been running ATTO disk for a while and my conclusion is the the maxtors in raid are rapid, im getting rid of the raptor to fund a 300GB maxtor 10

dsio 13th August, 2005 03:40 PM

My next 300 is in the mail :D Soon goodbye 60GB wrongness, and hello 600GB RAID 0 rightness !!!

GrahamGarside 13th August, 2005 04:38 PM

I personally wouldn't go for such a large, none redundant RAID array. For RAID 0 you want speed, so thats maybe a hundred gigs or so for apps, os and maybe encoding/compression operations, 600GB is the sort of space you want for media and documents you are going to keep, and doubling the chance of failure and loss with that amount of data would keep me awake at night (and I'm a heavy sleeper)

I guess thats one of the good things about the RAID features on intel 9XX chipsets, offering redundant storage for some of the space only

Razorfish 13th August, 2005 05:05 PM

hence why i want to setup a raid 3 array as soon as i get a replacement for the raptor.

dsio 14th August, 2005 03:12 AM

Does not bother me in the slightest. Of that 600GB I only need to keep about 50GB, the rest is all expendable media. It is a very reliable disk, so I have no issues with it.

Razorfish 14th August, 2005 01:33 PM

your a braver man than me!

dsio 14th August, 2005 02:45 PM

I dont want to back up junk, which is what collects on a big hard drive. I have at any given time 30-50GB of vital stuff that I back up regularly. Everything other than that is family DVDs that are kept for ease of editing, game demos, junk, junk, and more junk, stuff that I download, just so I can upload it to the files section, and pointless thousands of photos of my cat doing things that my sisters consider "cute".

I can lose all that junk and call it a spring clean with no regrets. As long as the vital stuff that I cannot replace or stand to lose is not gone. Hence I backup everything that is NEEDED, not what is not.

GrahamGarside 14th August, 2005 04:14 PM

I suppose with a fast net connection it ain't too bad, but if I lost the hundreds of gigs of stuff I had I'd be a tad miffed

dsio 14th August, 2005 04:35 PM

It is not something that will happen under normal circumstances. Seriously, a hard drive failure these days is not a common event. I have 9 odd maxtors here and a couple of seagates that have been in service for 5-12 years and I have only had one failure, from a bad power supply.

A newish top end hard disk with a high reputation crashing like that just doesn't happen these days, so if I was struck by it, I would accept it and move on.

And yea, with 12Mbit and 40GB per month the amount of crap I donwload is disgusting. I downloaded the entire collection of 1080i high definition trailers off the Microsoft WMV-HD site just for the hell of it. Thats how bored I get.

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