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$ilent$uicide 29th January, 2006 03:30 AM

My new Dell 2405 24" crashing my games HELP!
 
Well i just received my Dell ultrasharp 2405 the other day and am very pleased with it, but i hadent tried any games yet so today i decided to to try them out.

I am having trouble with my games. The whole system seems to freeze up on my after 30 mins of play, sometimes it happens after just 10 seconds, requiring me to do a system reboot.

The games i had trouble with were san andreas (which i could play for 30 mins) then i played earned in blood (could play for 30 mins, then lastly quake 4 (which only made it for 10 seconds), in all the cases i had changed the resolutions to 1600x1200. When quake 4 dies after 10 seconds at that resolution i restarted my system then stared the game switching the resolution down to 800x600 to see if maybe my graphics card was the culprit.... NOPE same thing happened after 10 seconds, the whole screen froze, requiring another system reboot.

Does anybody have any idea WTF is going on here?!?!

Some side info: MY LCD is using DVI and i have the desktop refresh rate set to 60mhz, im running a X850XT PE (PCIe) using omegadrivers (5.12) along with ATi tray tools (1.0.5.820) All the games i have ran i was using the (manual) fan control setting it to 100% so there wasent an overheating issue.

Im really not sure if this is a gpu driver issue, or if my X850 just dosent have enough juice but i thought id try here with you guys first. If i should be posting to a different kind of forum (lcd monitor/gaming forums) could you be nice enough to point me in the right direction. I just spent a **** load of $$$ on this lcd and having this issue of mine really makes me mad but im hoping that the fix is an easy one.

Thnx. $$

Staz 29th January, 2006 03:37 AM

Have you tried 1920x1200 or 960x600? Are those resolutions availible?

Did you install a driver specific for the monitor?

$ilent$uicide 29th January, 2006 03:58 AM

Yes i did use 1920x1200 while playing earned in blood.

Yes i did install a driver on the dell cd.

danrok 29th January, 2006 03:36 PM

Have you contacted Dell support?

What monitor were you using previously?

Favu 29th January, 2006 03:49 PM

I would back off on all your overclocks, and just see if you can get it running stable. That way you know if the issue is with hardware or overheating :)

Aedan 29th January, 2006 10:32 PM

I would be very surprised if changing the monitor actually causes the crashes - after all, the graphics card spits info out to the monitor. Other than the DDC data (what modes the monitor supports), there's no channel for information back to the PC.

If you're still having these problems, I'd try reseating the graphics card.

Just a stupid question here: The PC and monitor are connected to the same wall socket?

$ilent$uicide 29th January, 2006 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Áedán
I would be very surprised if changing the monitor actually causes the crashes - after all, the graphics card spits info out to the monitor. Other than the DDC data (what modes the monitor supports), there's no channel for information back to the PC.

If you're still having these problems, I'd try reseating the graphics card.

Just a stupid question here: The PC and monitor are connected to the same wall socket?

Yes everything is connected to a surge protector.

"Have you contacted Dell support?

What monitor were you using previously?"

No not yet.

Was using a Samsung 1100DF 21" CRT.

Everything was running smoothly right before i added the dell into the mix, i have had this "core system" since july 2005 with NO problems.... till now.

SteveI 29th January, 2006 11:42 PM

Wilde guess here....
Try analog on the Dell, if available. The only thing I can think of is that your video DVI port is not right... If the monitor works fine in analog, I'd suspect your video card.

Regarding power connections, I would think that the LCD would consume less power than the CRT, and should not be a possible cause... again a wild guess.

$ilent$uicide 30th January, 2006 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveI
Wilde guess here....
Try analog on the Dell, if available. The only thing I can think of is that your video DVI port is not right... If the monitor works fine in analog, I'd suspect your video card.

Regarding power connections, I would think that the LCD would consume less power than the CRT, and should not be a possible cause... again a wild guess.


Well i just reinstalled quake,removed the dell driver, tried the other DVI input on the back of my card, then i switched the cables so that just d-sub was running and none of that made any difference, i still am having the lockups in quake. By the way just for the record, this gpu has 2 DVI connections on the back, when i want D-sub i ahve to use an adapter. Still a gpu DVI problem?

SteveI 30th January, 2006 03:01 AM

Unlikely... but then again, I did say wild guess.
I'm of the same opinion as Aedan. The monitor should not be able to cause the problem.... but obviously, I am not an expert on video monitor...

MONKEYMAN 30th January, 2006 06:55 AM

Might seem a dumb idea but...have you tried putting your old monitor back on to check the problem goes away? if it doesn't then you know the monitor is not to blame.

Aedan 30th January, 2006 10:44 AM

As Monkeyman suggests, if you still have the old monitor, swap the monitors over...

$ilent$uicide 31st January, 2006 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Áedán
As Monkeyman suggests, if you still have the old monitor, swap the monitors over...


I just did that and the old monitor worked just fine i played about a half hour of quake 4 with no problems.

cloasters 31st January, 2006 06:35 PM

Dayam, this is one pissoir of a problem. A new monitor as big as the great outdoors and needing to reboot out of the problem. If you have another Vidcard, why not see if you run into the same hassle? I dunno if the old Vidcard has to be in the neighborhood of your bayad arse mofo X850 or not.

danrok 31st January, 2006 07:22 PM

Unusal problem! I've never encountered this before.

Can you or have you tried the new Dell on another computer?

Pitch 31st January, 2006 10:25 PM

What resolutions does your original display handle?

$ilent$uicide 31st January, 2006 11:21 PM

Hmm i do have an old XP3200/9800XT system in the closet gathering dust...... ill try that see what happens. I did a complete re-install of windows just to rule out the possibility that it was the culprit. I was eventually going to reinstalll windows before all this happened, i just had my hand pushed a littler sooner then i had planned lol. Anyway im going to try quake again see if it works now, if not ill drag that old closet computer out here and give it a whirl.

My original display (as in the samsung?) it was using native 1280x1024. Im using the dells native 1920x1200.

Pitch 31st January, 2006 11:55 PM

Might be a good idea. I guess it will narrow down the possibilties.

But that's damn weird that a monitor can effect a system that much.

radcon56 1st February, 2006 05:56 AM

Maybe, the video card can't handle the higher resolution the dell demands.
Did you try backing down the res using the dell to 1280 x 1024 just to check it. You probably wouldn't want to leave it there, being that it would defeat the purpose of having a killer monitor like that. But a test for a half hour might shed some light on the subject. A new Graphics card might be in your future.

$ilent$uicide 1st February, 2006 08:16 PM

Well i installed quake on my old computer fired it up, and have been playing for over an hour straight, without a single problem on this dell. Other then the fact my poor old 9800XT got the crap pounded out of it rofl i must have been anywhere between 5-10fps :rolleyes: but at least i COULD play it.

So i guess the monitor is fine then, but what the hell?? Am i to assume that simply by adding this dell to my current system that im getting instability, even though it was able to handle a XP3200/Nforce2/9800XT but cant manage a FX57/Nforce4/X850XTPE? Thats crazy **** right there.


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