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I'm starting to believe I have a miracle card... I presently have 2 8500LEs.. The other registers as running at 250/230. It is only getting 6890 3dmarks.... THis Tells me 2 things: 1) something is screwy with my system... that second card should definitely be breaking 9000 at least. 2) the first card scoring that much higher, means I need to research the memory... I may have lucked out with 2.8ns memory... which means if I figure out what the heck is going on in my rig, I should be able to break 11K.
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Now, here is where you are getting confused. Radeonator is showing you the DDR speed. It is showing 250/185 as 250/365. I would be willing to bet that instead of 400 you are running at 200x2. Try using powerstrip, rivatuner, or rage3d tweak to verify this. there are a lot of crap 8500LEs running at 250/166 or 250/185 and it seems that you got one of them. I suggest you call whoever swapped the cards for you and **** at them. I doubt you have 2.8ns ram because the card barely breaks 200 mhz. Sorry to bring bad news ![]()
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Steve!!! you got the crappy R8500LELELE LOL!! just like what happened to me.. a long way back... do you remember?? I reported the issue with my gpu mem clocks and turned out to be one of those LELE or LELELE versions. These cards stinkx! Sorry it happened to you... i know it sux.. I'm afraid they replaced you card with a wrong one, completely ripped you off. This is why I stopped dealing with stores where they carry any of LE versions. I don't trust em.... So I had to go back to my trusty Gainward Ti200 cauze I know exactly what I will be getting... Steve, I'm sorry to hear your problem. Yes, what funnyperson has said about the proggie reading the clocks at DDR is correct... Your GPU core should be pretty good.. but the memory chips suck big time... and no, the rest of your system is working fine, where it should be. It's the card's memory clock being so low.
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I'm still confused... I swapped cards.... the other one shows up as 250/230.... I swapped back again, and this one is up much higher... Unless 230 means 115 DDR(????)... Using both cards to run 3dmarks... the 230 card is getting 6890. And the (now) 460 card is getting 10133:
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Steve, i used to use Rage3d Tweak before. My LELELE card reads just like yours on the core and memory. The regular/retail 8500 and some other "LE" cards have much higher memory clockspeeds. That's why you're getting much better 3dmark score with that. yes...... that memory chip pic you posted looks exactly like my low performance 5.5 ns Hyundai chip... which is severely crippled for the card..
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That is 5.5ns ram ![]()
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I had some discussion about the Radeon 8500 series cards over at futuremark a long time ago.. All the rad8500 users entered and shared their input.. there are as many as 10 different models in the 8500 series(if i remember correctly) lol..
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Yowch! I had no idea that buying a good 8500 LE was this difficult. I wouldn't have done the proper research, I'm sure. Sheesh, 7000 is how my 64 Mb Ti200 scores. My neighbor's 8500 LE whomps on my Ti200. Of course, he paid a lot for his.
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Yeah, but for a LONG time newegg was selling 250/275 8500LEs built by ati oem. After newegg stopped selling those, the 8500LE market has been messed up.
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it's not totally reliable in termz of buying trusty R8500LE cards coz there are 2 many LELE/ LELELE cardz out there.... over populated and ready to go B O O M M M...... ![]() some praying required. some luck required. some money required. usually, you pay a lot of money.. i.e. 300 buckx, you get a nice original pure ATI Rad8500 NO LE's... but then... it's too much money... well, not now, but not too long ago hehehehehe
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