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Old 4th July, 2003, 02:33 PM
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ATI marketing...

Ok, I'm curious. Is anyone else frustrated by the ridiculous naming system of ATI and NVidia lately???

I'm trying to figure this out... After 8500 & 9700, everything is a mystery.

9000, 9100, 9200, 9500, 9700, 9800....
then you got PRO, and Atlantis....

I think PRO means faster memory... but what the heck is Atlantis???

In terms of performance where would the 8500 fit in... Also, which of these cards have real DX9 support?

I have an 8500 scoring 11,000 3dm2k1, so that's my starting point.
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Old 4th July, 2003, 04:17 PM
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Atlantis is made by Sapphire and is fanless, see attached. (Edit: Not all of them apparently, I just found a 9600 pro atlantis with the fan)

http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/hardwa...211_1607661__2

The speed of change is far too confusing. First 9100,9500,9700, (with pro version of each) now its 9200,9600,9800, but the original models are still there too.
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Keep 'em confused, they'll buy more that way. The only thing I know about ATi is that the 8500 LE is superior to the 9000. Making more less in this case.
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Keep 'em confused, they'll buy more that way. The only thing I know about ATi is that the 8500 LE is superior to the 9000. Making more less in this case.
You're not joking. I just went into the local guy we get a lot of stuff from. The Sapphire Atlantis 9700 pro he stocks has a fan
heh heh, he also let me take it home to try
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Atlantis is just one of saphires brand names, it has nothing to do with fans.

Id recomend using one of anandtechs benchmark sets to work out which card is better, the current ATI ramge dont perform as there numbers may suggest
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The real confusion comes when you start looking at the different memory brands and speeds they put on these cards depending on who manufactured the card. you pay $50.00 less for brand X over brand Z thinking your getting a steal of a deal only to find out you bought a card with second rate memory.

It would be nice if the manufacturer put memory specs in the ad.
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It would be nice if the manufacturer put memory specs in the ad.
Well, you'd think...
Between a friend I buy parts for, RMAs and myself, I've been through 6 or 7 Sapphire 8500LEs. Same exact model number, from the same etailer. I've gotten 4 different types of memory now. Mostly junk. but a couple of gems.. Too bad one of the good ones were RMAd back... My mistake.

They don't tell us because they want to have the luxory of getting the best deal, and sticking whatever they feel like on the boards.
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Well, you'd think...
Between a friend I buy parts for, RMAs and myself, I've been through 6 or 7 Sapphire 8500LEs. Same exact model number, from the same etailer. I've gotten 4 different types of memory now. Mostly junk. but a couple of gems.. Too bad one of the good ones were RMAd back... My mistake.

They don't tell us because they want to have the luxory of getting the best deal, and sticking whatever they feel like on the boards.
It's quite difficult to get a good quality 8500 LE lately, from what I read.
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perhaps this will help:

http://oc3dmark.octeams.com/radeonguide.html
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Awesome..
That helps a ton!!!
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