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Old 4th May, 2004, 02:06 PM
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Gf4 Ti 4200 Vs 5900xt

Hello guys,

My question is: if I buy fx 5900xt will it make a big difference in games over ti4200 or not?

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yes, the 4200 is a great card, but is only dx8 were as a 5900xt is dx9. even your dx8 look better with a dx9 card, i went from a 4200 to a radeon9700pro and it made a huge difference and a 5900xt is a faster card than my ati
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Hope springs eternal! ":O}

Have a 4600Ti, want a $500.00 card for $50.00, this may take a while! ":O}
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In my experience, once it falls off the truck, it has limited value! ":O}
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Hi guys,

Nice of you to give me some ideas and the big news is that tommorow I'll borrow one FX 5900 from a friend. I will see if it's friendly towards my computer and I'll let you all know the bench results.




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I cannot forget, and I am very pleased with what I have seen. Once I installed the Palit Daytona FX 5900 XT I run several benchmark's. Here is what I got:
1. 3dMark03 5475 with a little push for the core from 400 to 466 and the memory at default (700 Mhz)
2. Aquamark default bench with application control enabled 46500
3. 3DMark01 14332
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 204.9 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 68.0 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 266.6 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 149.9 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 187.7 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 83.5 fps
Game 4 - Nature 85.6 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 1492.5 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 3090.4 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 89.2 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 26.3 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping 217.1 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping 220.3 fps
Vertex Shader 152.4 fps
Pixel Shader 200.4 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader 112.8 fps
Point Sprites 32.2 MSprites/s

and I was expecting more from 3dMark2001.

What is really the top of the cookie is that Far Cry is running like Quake3 on Ti 4200!!!! with everything at very high in 1024/32 and almost perfect with the same at 1280/32. Painkiller is also not having any dificulties when 20 or 80 or 100 monsters appear and there is also a lot of smoke and fire, it really rocks!!!
Guys for 200$ you can have all this. Don't want to tell you about Colin 04 in 1280/32/full details or NFS Under running in 1280/32/full because I think you can imagine how it's working. There is just one question; if this card run so well what will happen with the next generations and how nice the next generation of games will look and feel? Guys please feel free to share your ideas about all this.

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i know all to well about colin mcrae 04 and NFSU with a card like that, then add my logitech MOMO wheel and logitech z-5300 thx speakers. shall we say sweet meats!!
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Well I think here you beat me, I know Momo it's the best, but I will not feel shame since I am using Logitech Formula Force GP and 4 speakers 3 ways 130W real !!!
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Hello guys,

I run into a bit of trouble as I am adapting to my new card.
After reading a little bit about what is the best way of overclocking 5900 XT I found out that coolbits it's no longer the best and yada yada here it is:

"3.3. What overclocking utilities work best of all with the 5900XT?

There’s no difference which utility you use. The latest RivaTuner (RC14.3NY) usually handles this job right (earlier versions don’t allow overclocking a 5900XT-based card). If the results of RivaTuner seem too low or there are any problems, try PowerStrip. Don’t forget about the division of the frequencies into 2D and 3D – you should only increase the 3D clock rates. Usually, you don’t run into any problems at overclocking. It is only not recommended to use NVIDIA’s driver for overclocking (CoolBits) – it doesn’t work correctly, often reducing the possible results. This especially refers to the AutoDetect function that you’d better leave along altogether.

3.3.1. RivaTuner doesn’t change the GPU frequency at overclocking. What to do?

General advice: check out the version of the program. RC14NY works excellently with the 5900XT, while earlier versions do not. Sometimes the reported problem happens with the latest RivaTuner: the program still shows 300MHz GPU frequency after you have confirmed the frequency change. In fact, the frequency did change (in accordance to your settings) and you can notice it in any test, but RivaTuner itself sometimes fails to detect the change. But it’s all right, don’t worry! "

Well what I found out after installing this RIVATUNER is that I have no access to the frequency sliders because it's says "Access to this feature is purposely blocked to avoid interference with Geforce FX specific dynamic driver level clock frequency adjustment"

I mention that I have installed an older driver 53.03 which is known by this late release of rivatuner. Either I am stupid or the guy who recomended rivatuner didn't know what he was talking about. Can anyone make some light in this matter???



Thank you guys,

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Hello,

Nobody knows? ...Chris take a brake, you don't need to overclock that monster!!!
Ok, thank you Chris!

Case closed !!!

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you don't need to overclock that monster!!!
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Wrong! I'm nobody and I don't know! Wait...there may be other nobodies who do know! I guess they just don't like you! Sorry, I felt it best that you have all the facts! ":O}
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Chris you'd better stop laughing or you'll die. My stomach ache. It's not from the drugs Pitch !!! LOL

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pitch it just u are a crazy overclockers man
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