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Alpine / Blaupunkt / BOSE has always been my favourite. Just gave the bimmer a new Blaupunkt skyline head unit and some BOSE speakers, but really everyone likes their own stereo gear and says everyone else's is rubbish. Its a matter of taste really. I just trust Alpine / Blaupunkt / BOSE because they have always had the contracts for high end cars (ferrari, porsche, lamborghini) and have a long term good rep.
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I went through this a little while ago also. The advice I got from an audio eng. was to put your money into the speakers and don't worry so much about the head unit. I only had one criteria for the player and that was that it had to play MP3's. I found a pretty decent one for $165.00. I paid about the same for the set of speakers which were a set of 6 X 9 Coaxial Cerwinvegas.
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Blaupunkt kicks butt..... I wish I could afford one.... ![]()
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if you are really on a tight budget, go for Jenson speakers. You wont hear too many people admit it, but a lot of times they sound a lot better than the lower lines of more expencive brands. If you want bass you will need at least a small sub to satify you most likely. Just head to your local store and try out a bunch of different speakers.
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I was worried that consumer audio gear would not stand up to the heat etc but I was garunteed they would be fine so I took them. The Blaupunkt skyline is insane but it really needs an amp I think. Im just using the onboard amp right now, which is pretty good to be honest, but something dedicated is on the cards soon as I can pick up a matching blaupunkt amp off ebay for cheap. No subwoofer at this point either.
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Blaupunkt or alpine (I have these) for speakers, and probably JVC for a cheap good sounding head unit. I have an older one (first of the MP3 ones) and it puts enough sound out I don't need an amp, but with 1 - 4 channel and 1 - 2 channel amp with 2 small subs, and while the music isn't loud (I don't crank it, it will do in excess of 150 db), its better than most peoples home units for quality. You want to make sure you buy component speakers, not 3-way 4-way or whatever. While you say you don't want loud, you want speakers that can, as they have better response, and quality, decent speakers, amp and sub are more important than a head unit, but you do need decent quality from that as well. As for the wiring, check the wires, if they are crappy, thin, old looking, you will have to change them just for the quality, and it can mean alot of quality. I spent about 4x the time re-wiring the speakers than putting them, the amp, and head unit in, and it was well worth the effort. You would do well with shielded cables and earth the shielding. Best bang for buck alpine component speakers buy shielded multicore wire - 21 gauge (5mm) JVC head unit - min 4 x 50W extra's: 4 channel amp for speakers - alpine 1 or 2 channel amp for sub(s) - alpine (head unit should have seperate sub out with volume control) Sub
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YAY for metal bands. ![]() dsio: Any chance of seeing some photos of your car? Interior and exterior. Im curious what this machine that you appear to spend so much playing with looks like. ![]() While we are on the subject of car speakers. Im about to get my license, so my Dad (partly due to health reasons) gave me his car. A 1996 Ford Futura. It has just a standard tape deck. I want to replace it with a CD/MP3 player a decent set of speakers in the rear, and what ever else I need. Im new to this stuff so what am I looking at. I just what a something that doesnt distort when it gets loud. Complete car sound kit, what do I need? |
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dont really have a camera sadly, but it is not much to look at right now. Its in bits again while I do some cleaning and replacing. I think I will completely strip it and get it resprayed now rather than later as I had planned since I am halfway there already. The gloss black is just too hard to clean and keep even. It looks beautiful when it is wet or polished, but then a bird always craps on it. Im changing the colour only slightly to a gunmetal grey mica, which is one of those colours that looks better the filthier the paint and the wheels are. Filth is good ![]() And yea SM, I have been working on that, but at this point I still do not know if I will be keeping everything the way it is or changing the mountings and adding a sub. I have a family member that builds amps and speaker boxes so I wont have any problems.
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But as said before: Speakers (not 6x9 or 3-way) Including Subs: Blaupunkt Alpine Head Deck (50W x 4 min): Blaupunkt JVC Alpine GET 21 Gauge (5mm diameter) multi core, shielded, O2 free, wire AMP: For speakers 4-way 250W RMS min For Sub 2-way 250W RMS min Blaupunkt Alpine You want speakers that can at least do what the amp is rated for. You do get what you pay for! Components always have a better sound than composite, and a decent amp, wire, and head unit does help with sound quality. Component speakers - have 1 larger midrange speaker and 1 small tweeter Head deck - where you stick the cd's in - controls the volume, etc - get a MP3 player don't bother with a stacker Sub - Large base speakers Wire - self explanatory Amp - amplifier, modern head deck will have non amped out, and these plug into the amp via RCA leads (same connector as video out on DVD player to TV), which then increases the level of sound output. Volume, base, trebble, is still controlled from the head deck, and some have seperate Sub out which has it's own seperate volume level
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What do you mean about the amp? How you said..."modern head deck will have non amped out"? I dont understand. The RCA part i get though. ![]() OK. With the speakers. Wont it look weird with two different speaker sizes? Or get the larger midrange speakers in the back, and tweeters in the front? Last edited by Rondog; 5th September, 2005 at 09:49 AM. |
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UK view here: Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer generally (! exceptions do occur !) do pretty good speakers/headunits. Blaupunkt seem to produce some pretty average headunits (like Sony), and only the clueless highstreet places seem to sell their speakers. Very few specalist ICE places sell Blaupunkt in the UK.
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I have the Harmen Karden upgrade package in my BMW, which includes speakers, amp and subwoofer, the damn speakers on the rear shelf blow when turned up too loud ![]()
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If you push an amp into clipping (IE, you're asking it for more power than it can deliver) then the high frequency content shoots upwards as distortion occurs. Speaker systems are designed to handle around 70-80% of the power in the bass section, and the other 20-30% spread between the mid and highs - with the highs getting the correspondly small amount (often as little as 5%). When distortion occurs that spread changes, and large amounts of power end up at the high end due to the distortion. That means the tweaters are suddenly seeing much larger amounts of power than they're designed to handle and they tend to overheat and die. Generally an amplifier specified to be ten times as large as the speakers can handle is fine. Speakers can handle transient overloads (even to the point of multiple times their continuous rating) for short periods of time with no issues, which allows the good reproduction of things like snare and kick drums. You also need to ensure that the system is well set up. When it comes to amps and speakers, remember that if you want a slight increase in apparent volume, you need twice as much power.
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