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Old 11th March, 2006, 02:38 AM
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I think they are aiming to proce the X1800GTO at $199.

We'll see how this pans out.
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Old 11th March, 2006, 02:45 AM
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Thats the thing, I"m sure they COULD sell the card
MSRP @ $199.

But what I had been seeing $249...maybe thats just me.
I think that would be most likely, and then we'll see how
the 7600GT stacks up. If its the underpreformer, ATI could
keep a $200+ tag and it would still sell provided it would
be the leading midranged GPU. Should the results be about
the same ballpark, then you'll see the price drop to compete.

Regardless, its still a nice midranged solution.
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Old 11th March, 2006, 02:59 AM
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My card was the equivilant of about $180US from the disty. Still isn't here yet. You will find the 128 bit memory bus doesnt come into it as much as you would expect without a fair bit of AA.
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Old 11th March, 2006, 11:52 PM
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What about increasing resolution though?

Anywho, doing a little thinking. I thought ATI was hurting(financially) using the R520 process? Then why would they base the GTO on the 1800?

Could they not have simply used the X1900 PCB and then disabled either some pipelines, Shaders or a combination of both to achieve a desired midranged card?
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Old 12th March, 2006, 12:20 AM
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If you mean using R580 instead of R520, then it would be due to cost.

R520 cost's ATi ~$120 per core

R580, due to the bigger die size would cost more driving the price of an intended mindrange card skywards.
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I'm still weary of ATI I think they did a bad job with the 260's card. it may be powerful but everything is plasticly I'll see if this changes but it tells me something.
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I'm still weary of ATI I think they did a bad job with the 260's card. it may be powerful but everything is plasticly I'll see if this changes but it tells me something.
Plasticy?

Can you think of any more reasons to hate ATi?
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I don't hate them anymore I'm just see no reason to like them. Nvidia fixed this a bit of time ago. GRAW doesn't have this to much but most other games I[ve seen. My only problem with them is thier high end doesn't match up.
P.S. I'm still pissed of how they never answered my HDTV tunner qeurys.
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Nvidia fixed this a bit of time ago.
Fixed what?
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GRAW doesn't have this to much but most other games I[ve seen.
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My only problem with them is thier high end doesn't match up.
It doesn't? Please explain your point of view. The X1900 and 7900 seem very evenly matched to me, there's plusses owning both.
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Old 12th March, 2006, 03:10 AM
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I'm emailing this thread to ATI's support department. If their chips are "plasticy", they should definately be notified about it.
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Old 12th March, 2006, 03:15 AM
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He MUST be referring to the heatsink. I totally agree, I would much prefer carbon fibre with liberal use of UV lights and UV reactive paint. Perhaps some go faster stripes and huge triple slot spoiler.
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Old 12th March, 2006, 03:33 AM
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See, this is the kind of constructive criticism that ATI could use. I'll forward it to their marketing department as well.
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If you mean using R580 instead of R520, then it would be due to cost.

R520 cost's ATi ~$120 per core

R580, due to the bigger die size would cost more driving the price of an intended mindrange card skywards.

Ahh, thank you for clearing that up Pitch.
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http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814131005

Already at $439, thats $60 less than what it was a week ago. I"m sure We'll see at least one more cut within two weeks. I've made up my mind, and I'll be ordering an X1900 around the 25th.

Quick question.

Opty 146 or 3700+??? There the exact same price ($212) on newegg.
Factor in all the possibilites and end results (overclocking mainly)
What would be the better buy?
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146.
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UK Buyers, 7900 series here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/7900_Series.html at about £250 for a gT edition! i gotta get me one of these!
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You can pick up a X1800XT for £200
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yeah, but i'm an nvidia guy (not a fanboy) although i have heard that ATi cards are better at Direct X processing whereas Nvidia cards excel at OpenGl games. Anyone care to confirm?
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Old 17th March, 2006, 04:39 PM
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It has been in the past. However, with the differences in how the GPU's work, it's a whole different ball game.
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7900's do not feature AA and HDR. they are waste of time. new card, no new features...what's the point?


r520 cost so much becasue yeilds are low. R580, even though it's larger, is cheaper.
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