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Old 19th May, 2004, 05:07 PM
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P 4 vs Celeron

I currently have a P 4 1.6 chip. I am considering an upgrade to a Celeron 2.7. But I wonder if I'll get better performance considering the smaller L1 cache. Is there a way to determine this, all other things being equal?

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Old 20th May, 2004, 10:18 PM
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I'm not sure, havn't had much experience with Celerons. The L1 cache is the same I think, but 128k in L2.
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Old 25th May, 2004, 02:27 AM
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I have a 1.7A P4 that will only OC to about 1.9GHz and I have a Celeron 2.0 that will OC to 2.9GHz and it is of course much faster, despite the lower L2 cache.
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Clock for clock celerons are way slower than there p4 buddies, especially the C generation, There will be eventually a celeron E based on the prescott core but thats likely to be pants too.
I cant remember the exact performance difference but somthing like a celeron 2.8 is about as fast a 2.4Ghz p4 in best case for it, sometimes as bad as a 2Ghz P4.
Personally i'd go for a lowish end P4 as price wise there quite good value and have overclocking potential.

You say you have a 1.6 is that a Willamete or Northwood ? You may have problems if its the former.

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Old 25th May, 2004, 09:37 PM
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A while back I ran Super Pi on a Celeron 2.7 and a couple of the computers I have here to see how they stacked up.

An Athlon Barton 2600+ on an nForce2 board was twice as fast as the Celeron and even a Duron 1600 on a budget board was faster.

I don't think that the Celeron would be an "upgrade" from your P4 - it might not even be as fast.
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A 2.7GHz Celery is still faster than a 1.6GHz Willy, but maybe not a Northy. The Willy's only had 256k cache where as the Northy's moved to 512k.
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Hold on tight!!

To that P-4 1.6. that is one on the greatest overclockers ever unleashed on us!! It will destroy much faster chips with ease!! I am going to post you some info here that will shock and amaze you all. If you have a weak stomach or the thought of such dynamic overclocks makes you feel sick, then look away!!! for God's sake cover your eyes!!!!! Be prepared!!! This is a system that belongs to a sweet lady known to the world only as.... Drum roll please!!!
THE GEEK MISTRESS... YOU WILL BOW TO HER OVERCLOCKING PROWESS!!

Well any way here is what you can do with a 1.6. She uses an Abit IT7 MAX2 VER.2 MOBO. I love my new EPOX Board but the Abit board was the best user friendly overclocking beast I ever owned. My son now owns it!!!!!!

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Her every day clock is 163 fsb @ 2615 mhz No Celly No Way!!
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That was all on air cooling!!! Thought you should know.

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those older p4s run very cool, even the willy, but the northwood is very cool too. My p4 willy 2.00ghz is at 2.8ghz and stays around 32c and 35c at max load. very o/c friendly. runs super stable, but keep away from the celeron.
the cooler is a regular local pc shop foxconn p4 up to 2.8ghz cooler.
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