Is anyone else amazed?

[wackerman]

I thought about this alot last year and I just wanted to see if I am alone in this thought.

We, as a computing community, saw the rise of the first ghz chip and the first 2 ghz chip for the normal retail market in one year.

PC have been around how long?
How many years did it take us to go from 100mhz to 900mhz?
At least 6 years.

I guess I am just really excited to see what the next 2 years bring. I just got done reading the post with the 5.5ghz P4. I thought that it was really funny, then I thought that it won't be too long before that is a reality.

I still use my 133mmx, my PII 333, my 533 Celeron, my 833 PIII, just not nearly as much as my 1.7. There is no comparison, and to think that in not even a year my kick@ss 1.7 p4 will be outdated and considered slow. I am sure some people think that it is outdated now.

Good. Thats the spirit!

Just rambling.

[Pinky]

Yyyyuuuuup.

Agreed.

[surlyjoe]

I'm suprised them 1.6 northwoodys are doin 2.2 plus looks like Intel might be in my future :nervous:

[Pinky]

Originally posted by surlyjoe
I'm suprised them 1.6 northwoodys are doin 2.2 plus looks like Intel might be in my future :nervous:

Those core do 3.6ghz+ with Liquid Nitrogen, so I imagine 2.7 with air isn't out of the question once the "better" steppings begin to creep up...

[nullCRC]

I would'nt say amazed. Intel seems to follow Moore's Law; The number of transistors in a processor doubles every 18 months.


He made this statement in 1965 I think. From 1940-1940 it doubled every 24 months. From 1960-1980 it doubled every 18 months., But from 1990-2001, we were actually doubling at the rate of every 12 months.

I AM amazed when companies like Transmeta come around with new technology (processors), or quantum computing.

[cloasters]

I agree. The jump from 1 to 2 Ghz has almost been a yawn. I guess that further dramatic leaps in Clock Speed won't be cheered much. 1 Ghz was a bridge SO far away, for so long!

Where is my 100 Ghz CPU? Why don't I already have it? Will it cost $19.95? Robbery!

[wackerman]

NullCRC

He made this statement in 1965 I think. From 1940-1940 it doubled every 24 months. From 1960-1980 it doubled every 18 months., But from 1990-2001, we were actually doubling at the rate of every 12 months

So do you think we will see the 4ghz processor this year?

I think only 2.4 is available now, I could be wrong.

I certainly hope so!
I don't mind upgrading for that kind of speed.

[nullCRC]

Well, Intel already has the 10Ghz running, go check out http://www.anandtech.com

[e_storm]

Hey Wackerman, thats my avatar!!!!!!

lol jk. I have the same pic as an avatar on another website. I was gonna put it on here too, but I didn't think we were allowed to put on custom ones.

[Daniel ~]

Oh hell yes! Custom Avatars are way cool dude!

[wackerman]

e_storm

have you seen the puzzle for this?

Its hard to find. I am a huge Seinfeld fan, I have all the episodes on .avi

Will

[e_storm]

Originally posted by wackerman
e_storm

have you seen the puzzle for this?

Its hard to find. I am a huge Seinfeld fan, I have all the episodes on .avi

Will

No, never saw the puzzle. I also like seinfeld a lot. Its one of the only sitcoms I've liked. You have all the episodes huh? There are some that I would love to have, they are just hillarious. I'm quite positive I've seen all the episodes too. How did you get them on .avi? Just curious.

[e_storm]

Originally posted by Daniel ~
Oh hell yes! Custom Avatars are way cool dude!

In that case, I'll do some digging and get a good one.:-D

[wackerman]

e_storm

Some are obviously harder to find then others. I use WinMX for my peer-to-peer file sharing. I get tons of movies new to theaters and classics, and sitcom episodes. Some other sitcoms I download are the simpsons, futurama, family guy, south park, and Star Trek (all).

Send me a PM after you register there and we can exchange screen names. I can let you download whichever ones you want. You will need high speed internet access, other wise you could spend days downloading.

Will

[ItHuNkPuNk]

personally, I think that companies like intel should test their processing power with Folding@home.. that thing will tear up system resources and spit em out.. Perfect torture testing..


Just think.. that 10ghz of theirs, assuming its a P4, should cut down the WU time to oh.. say.. 4 hours

[Random Nonsense]

Clock speed isnt everything, i consider it a brute force method, true at the moment intel have the most POWERFUL as well as fastest chip.....

the goalposts have changed alot, at one point 1ghz was the holy grail, i can remember thinking "GOOD GOD! a pentium 133? how can anything be that fast"

now 1ghz? pah slow! 2ghz? so what? i think since we wont see another change until Thz come along (Terrahertz) its not gonna be a big deal, and i dont think we could ever see a CPU that fast the laws of physics prevent it..... soon a brick wall will be hit, much like the speed of light, and then more subtle ways if increasing processor power will be necessary

[Holst]

the goalposts have changed alot, at one point 1ghz was the holy grail, i can remember thinking "GOOD GOD! a pentium 133? how can anything be that fast"

I can remember a guy at school getting a 486 DX2 100 and I couldnt beleve haow fast it was compared to my 386.

Today processor speed doubbling just dosent have the same impact.

Changing from my P3-600 to My durrent DDR board and a Duron 800 was a huge noticable diference. With ATA-100 everything seemed allot faster.

Changing from the duron 800 to my current XP @ 1680mhz didnt have a huge impact. Windows was slightly faster..as where games. The only realy noticable speed increase was folding where my WU times where more than halved.

I dont think that any normall games playing word processing home user needs more than 1ghz.

The next big change will be a "killer app" that can make use of 10ghz CPUs...not the faster CPU itself.

[The Spyder]

I got a p75 hp when i was 10 and i got the bigger monitor instead of the P90-- MYBAD!

interesting thread, and yet nobody mentions our biggest bottleneck now being bandwidth!

i mean, 4Ghz will be great, but uhh.. we'll be surfing and D/L'ing at the exact same speed LOL

so ok, video encoding, i'll be backing up a DVD to SVCD in a mere 5 mins. flat, including burn times BUT...
my counterstrike matches will still lag like bloody hell

but overall, will anything we normally do be improved in a 2ghz vs. a 4ghz? i'm sure some rendering/encoding etc.. but for everyday ppl?

it's in my opinion that research and development should be aimed directly at providing everyone with 5Mbit D/L and U/L capacity for $20 per month. and i mean worldwide scale deployment of high capacity fiber, big phat net pipe!! that's the advancement i'd like to see.

i can wait 12hrs to rip a DVD, notta prob...
the Duron 800 i have is plenty fast enuff.

[GFORCE100]

The point I would like to make here is that although it's exciting to see the GHz keep increasing very quickly over the years what's a vital key component now is memory performance.

All these processors are much faster than we care to believe or contemplate. The latency between an instruction being executed and a waistate to access memory has increased over the years.

Back in the days of Fast Page RAM they were on par with what 486 processors could do. EDO slightly made things better for Pentium 75-200.

I don't know if anyone has tried but I dare you get an old Socket 7 which supports SDRAM (like a 430TX) motherboard and put a Pentium 1 in it with SDRAM. You will be amazed how much faster the system works than with EDO RAM. If we could provide the same made-for-each-other connection these days then we would be blown away.

The biggest proof of my claim to fame with this statement is that just look at 3D cards, they ALL would want more memory bandwidth. Even the GF4's.