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Old 31st January, 2008, 01:14 PM
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Damn Intel HSF Mounts

Just built another quad core workstation today, and though I don't mind the socket mechanism...

WHAT THE HELL IS WITH THE HSF MOUNTS?!?

I had to push down so damned hard on the last of the four mounting posts for the stock intel cooler that I bent a perfectly good ASUS P5K-E Wifi to the point where the closest DDR2 slot to the CPU now has some play in it.

It is the hardest thing since 16 bit ISA cards to install and I'm damn sick of it. The AMD coolers are a piece of cake, hook the latch over, and push the level until it clamps, done.

This is teh second problem I've had with one of these intel coolers, the last being that while pushing it down the plastic split pin on the botton snapped off teh leg.

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Old 31st January, 2008, 10:17 PM
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And you do this far more often than most! Pity the guy attempting his first build!
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I think I put my cooler on with the mobo out of the case, so I could get a decent grip on the buggers

But yeah, it's far from the most user-friendly mounting method, that's for sure.
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Old 1st February, 2008, 03:17 AM
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I've read that Intel's stock coolers give less than optimal cooling lately, even at stock performance. But would an after-market cooler be any easier?
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Old 1st February, 2008, 12:30 PM
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Do you guys remember Socket 7? How it was so freaking simple?

You lift the lever, you drop the chip in, you close the lever. You install the HSF by hooking one end of the clip over one end, and fastening the other with a flathead screwdriver. Done deal.

Some people say the single lug clips could break a lug, and yea, they could, but every one I ever used was a triple lug clip, and they never break.

Super Socket 7 boards could take anything from a 60Mhz CPU, to a 600Mhz CPU. Factoring in architectural enhancements, thats one, maybe even two orders of magnitude performance difference from the lowest to the highest in terms of speed.

Intel, or AMD, it didn't matter, they both worked. Pentiums and K6's were socket compatible so you could switch depending on which company was being less of an arsehole at the time of purchase.

As for RAM, you could put up to 786MB of PC-133 SDRAM into it, or as little as 8MB of EDO RAM into it. Your choice.

My initial graphics card in that machine was a 512k S3 Trio 3D. My final graphics card in that machine was an Nvidia Geforce 4 TI 4600 Ultra. I could even put an ATI X1950XTX into it if I felt like it. Imagine that, a 2008 GPU in a 1998 motherboard.

AGP, PCI, ISA, everything was there. It really was my favourite computer and it always will be.

Why did everything have to go downhill since then?
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I've read way too many horror stories on Push Pin Fan/heatsink assemblies and how some have ruined mobos...I stear clear of those...I like the kind with a mounting plate on the back and you screw it down into it. No way to mess that up and it's really easy. Of course you can't twist the mounting area after applying the thermal paste...but its worth it not to damage the board.
I imagine the reason you are using the crappy fan/heatsink that comes with the cpu is because it's a boxed deal and you are building PC's to make money...even still, you are correct it's a crappy system that's way harder than it should be.
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Just built another quad core workstation today, and though I don't mind the socket mechanism...

WHAT THE HELL IS WITH THE HSF MOUNTS?!?

I had to push down so damned hard on the last of the four mounting posts for the stock intel cooler that I bent a perfectly good ASUS P5K-E Wifi to the point where the closest DDR2 slot to the CPU now has some play in it.

It is the hardest thing since 16 bit ISA cards to install and I'm damn sick of it. The AMD coolers are a piece of cake, hook the latch over, and push the level until it clamps, done.

This is teh second problem I've had with one of these intel coolers, the last being that while pushing it down the plastic split pin on the botton snapped off teh leg.

*Dsio is not impressed
Tell me about it! The last leg did NOT wanna go. I did get it to stay eventually, but giving a board that much pressure in one area is not good. Try twisting the leg in the socket it's placed as i think they have to be aligned perfectly in a particular degree to actually go.

Saying that, it was worth the struggle, my new sys absolutely spits all over my old one, and this one's got a "worse" cpu (gone from 4600+ X2 to e2160). Still, the ram i have is better (2GB Corsair C4 PC2-6400, and yes, this stuff actually works in dual-channel mode ^^). I've purchased portal just to celebrate (and because i've not played a good puzzle game in a while/i had a little bit of money to spare).
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My fix

for the problem is simple I measure the distace from the little lock downs to the motherboard when installed. Then I used machine screws and a nut and washers and istalled the Intel heatsink actually tighter than the stock push pins do. The result is a P-4 550 prescott that idled at 42C now idles at 31C!! I could not believe the difference. Snugging that cooler down just a little more made a huge difference.

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Old 3rd February, 2008, 12:25 PM
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That's the thing though, I use a watercooler on my main rig with four long screws, spacers and nuts and its great, but intel seams to think a few screws and nuts is too complicated for people. Hell include one of those little IKEA wrenches if you have to, but the brute force required for these pushpins is rediculous. With the screw down approach you don't worry about bending, and can torque it down until you fell its very well seated and putting decent pressure on the chip.
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