Is My Q6600 A Dog Or Is This Another BadAxe2 O.C. Issue?

[weldzilla]

The move to the P45 boards would probably be a good one and yes the zalman 9500 is a little too anemic for the quad cores without extreme (air conditioned air) pumped in. I think part of the heating with the quad core is a chipset problem. Remember how hot the 775 prescotts ran. Well when plugged into a modern X38chipset board they run very cool on just stock air. I tested this theory of mine out personally and have the results to prove it. The 975X chipset is just too outdated. I am pretty much an Asus guy but I have to tell you the results I have seen with the
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P are very impressive. ultimately it is up to you what you spend your money on. Anything but an MSI pretty much..
Get one and we'll help you with it.

WZ

[Daniel ~]

Greetings weldzilla!

Good to see you making your self useful around here again...":O}
what you've been up to... Been Ok?

[dsio]

Originally Posted by Daniel ~

Ambient temp 61 F CPU Temp 20C
2.44 2 core @ 3750

Water is massively better than air at cooling...5 times the ability to cool of air...If your really interested I did a review of my Koolance set up for front page a while back..

Just so you know, I'm no great shakes at these things and am prone to error, yet I've never losrt a single bit of hardware to water in 8 years...":O}

They are water cooling Video cards for a reason...":O}

I'd second that as well, the prebuilt systems like Koolance / Thermaltake ones are really foolproof designs and while they don't have the same level of performance of some of the custom jobs like Gizmo's direct die job and Wild Andy C's more exotic rad setups, they are extremely reliable and easy to build. Mine's been at least two years with not a hint of leakage in spite of heaps of movement and part modification.

The reason watercooling isn't as common in servers is that datacenters are specifically designed a certain way and as a result rack mount servers have to fit in with that. There are watercooled servers though, and there's an increasing push to go watercooled to bring the power consumption/performance ratio of datacenters down.

IBM eyes expanded water cooling for data centers - Network World
IBM labs produces domestic heating system from water cooled data center | News |
IBM Unveils New Water Cooling Technique « Data Center Knowledge
HPCwire: IBM, ETH Zurich to Build Water-Cooled Supercomputer

If we finally get to the point where DCs finally get rid of those monster air conditioning systems and switch to a system with cold water plumbed to each rack and hot water extracted and recycled it could well be that we get some massively better power figures.

[weldzilla]

Hey Daniel, I have just been buried in career. Have 9 years to go and I want to finish in a flurry!! I can't believe how fast time is passing.

WZ

[Daniel ~]

You may as well know...it doesn't slow down from where you are to where your going! ":O}

[DB_Cooper]

A quick update... yeah, I know it's been months.

I tried a few other cooking solutions and none of them really made a difference.

So it's time to retire the 975x board, I'm debating keeping the Q6600 and moving on to a DP45SG or just going all out and doing a P55 with an i7-860.

[chrisbard]

Anyways, I'd like to hit the 400 club, but I'm wondering what's holding me back.
I suspect that there might be an issue with my motherboard, and/or that I also got a dog of a G0 processor, as unlikely as that might be.


Thank you

Hey there,

My Gigabyte P31-DS3L is having no problem running all day long for about a year @ 389*9 which gives me a 3.5 Ghz speed. Good luck with another mobo !

[DB_Cooper]

Thanks chrisbard!

I just picked up some serious bargain basement hardware at Fry's Electronics today (I was just reminded why I hate that place after I walked through their door).

I grabbed a DP45SG for $95, and 8GB of Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 marked down to $149 for the entire kit.

Since I saved a bit over a $100, I decided to splurge and grab a CoolerMaster V-8. That really should end all speculation on cooling.

If this doesn't give me some improvement then the board and the cooler go back and it's i7-860 time.

[MUff1N]

If I had the money I'd go immediately to the i7 series CPU's!
They have no less than 3 times the performance on data throughput compared to the Core 2 series.
Now that's some serious performance gain!!!

[Daniel ~]

Originally Posted by MUff1N

If I had the money I'd go immediately to the i7 series CPU's!
They have no less than 3 times the performance on data throughput compared to the Core 2 series.
Now that's some serious performance gain!!!

Money has tamed my hardware ambitions as well...":O}

[DB_Cooper]

Originally Posted by MUff1N

If I had the money I'd go immediately to the i7 series CPU's!
They have no less than 3 times the performance on data throughput compared to the Core 2 series.
Now that's some serious performance gain!!!

Yes, and no.
I think it really depends on what your usage profile is.

If you spend all day doing video encoding and 3-D rendering then the i7 is where it's at.
For the rest of us, the difference is much more modest, and seems to be something closer to 10%-15%, unless you are running benchmarks as a hobby, you will never feel a speed difference that small.
I don't; I'm not even a gamer.
I just want a fast boot and all my applications to open instantly and get whatever I want done pretty fast.

I'll move to the i7 in another year when the prices come down, and I likely can reuse my DDR3 1333 RAM and my way-too-big CoolerMaster V-8, and so my real cost for waiting is just the cost of the DP55KG motherboard, and that was only $95.

If I can jack my processor up to 3.6 from my previous 3.0 I'll consider it a win.

I still think there is some life left in my Q6600 and it's far from being functionally obsolete.

I'll know more in a few days.