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Old 5th August, 2004, 02:59 PM
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Your opinon, please: Thinkpad T41

Slashdot says that IBM's Thinkpad T41 is excellent for Linux. How good is it with Windows XP Pro?
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What specs does it have?
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IBM ship it with Windows XP Pro, so it's a supported OS!

What in particular were you after?
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Thinkpad T41 is an awesome notebook. My next notebook will be an IBM.
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Slashdot says that IBM's Thinkpad T41 is excellent for Linux. How good is it with Windows XP Pro?

In the rush of current events... Please pardon my late reply, mookydooky. This is an expensive laptop. I'm torn between its capability and the ability to avoid tears if it's stolen. I'm thinking that a notebook is a major thief magnet. It's not that I live in a bad neighborhood, it's just not a good neighborhood.

I don't know if Centrino is hype--or worth the extra ~$500 it adds to the price of laptops. Is WiFi capability(assuming that 802.11b/g is already included) unavailable wthout Centrino? Probably not.
The truth is that I know very little about laptops!
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Old 11th August, 2004, 03:52 AM
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IBM ship it with Windows XP Pro, so it's a supported OS!

What in particular were you after?
Sorry that I'm so slow to respond to your post, Aedan. Besides easy Linux use(at least as far as SuSE goes) I'd like very good "connectivity." Like easy dial-up, dsl and cable capability. 802.11b and g(perhaps 802.11g means 802.11 capability is already there?), and WiFi.

And the ability to use an external mouse, keyboard, printer and monitor. mookydooky finds it important for a laptop to be able to play a DVD--with enough battery life for two more hours of use.

An 80 Gb HDD and 512 Mb of RAM are important. A discrete Vidcard rather than any built-in wonder would be nice.

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In the rush of current events... Please pardon my late reply, mookydooky. This is an expensive laptop. I'm torn between its capability and the ability to avoid tears if it's stolen. I'm thinking that a notebook is a major thief magnet. It's not that I live in a bad neighborhood, it's just not a good neighborhood.

I don't know if Centrino is hype--or worth the extra ~$500 it adds to the price of laptops. Is WiFi capability(assuming that 802.11b/g is already included) unavailable wthout Centrino? Probably not.
The truth is that I know very little about laptops!
A couple of things. Centrino is only worth it if you plan to use the laptop unplugged. The Pentium M was and is a great achievement by Intel. I typically get 4 hours or more on a single charge. As for WiFi, you can just buy a PC card for about $50. If you're planning to use the laptop mostly plugged in and only for short periods unplugged, it's probably more economical to buy a P4-M.
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Centrino is a brand name that Intel uses to denote that the machine is powered by a Pentium M processor coupled with an Intel 855 Chipset, and using an Intel PRO/Wireless adapter. If a machine doesn't have that combination, then it can't be called Centrino.

It's all about Marketing rather than anything else. There's plenty of better wireless cards than the Intel PRO/Wireless card, but machines with those in can't be called Centrino.

More info on what makes a Centrino laptop a Centrino laptop can be found here on Intel's pages.
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Centrino is a brand name that Intel uses to denote that the machine is powered by a Pentium M processor coupled with an Intel 855 Chipset, and using an Intel PRO/Wireless adapter. If a machine doesn't have that combination, then it can't be called Centrino.

It's all about Marketing rather than anything else. There's plenty of better wireless cards than the Intel PRO/Wireless card, but machines with those in can't be called Centrino.

More info on what makes a Centrino laptop a Centrino laptop can be found here on Intel's pages.

Thank you for your fast reply, Aedan. Great saints in the morning, the T41 is mighty expensive. Add 256 Mb of memory, bam, close to $2000. Add an extra battery and charger for same. Ugh. At this point, the T41 is too expensive for your humble scribe. It's so embarassing to have to ask the price!
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A couple of things. Centrino is only worth it if you plan to use the laptop unplugged. The Pentium M was and is a great achievement by Intel. I typically get 4 hours or more on a single charge. As for WiFi, you can just buy a PC card for about $50. If you're planning to use the laptop mostly plugged in and only for short periods unplugged, it's probably more economical to buy a P4-M.
Thnk you very much for your quick reply, mookydooky! Looking at adding a very few extras to make the T41 more mobile... Shazam, this puppy is too expensive for me.

Can you recommend a less expensive laptop? Linux isn't a must(how square can I be) I know that you bought a new notebook not so long ago, do you still like it?
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Linux support for the onboard Centrino w-lan isn't too hot, from what I understand (mixed success stories). You may have better success with a less highly-specced laptop and a CardBus w-lan card like the NetGear WG511 (NO EXTRA LETTERS), or similar based on prism54 firmware.

In any case, the ThinkPad T series are regarded as good performers for both Linux and Windows. Avoid the R series, since they're actually rebadged Acer notepads.
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Thank you for your fast reply, Aedan. Great saints in the morning, the T41 is mighty expensive.
IBM laptops have a reputation for being expensive. On the other hand, they do tend to make fairly robust laptops with good support.
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Thnk you very much for your quick reply, mookydooky! Looking at adding a very few extras to make the T41 more mobile... Shazam, this puppy is too expensive for me.

Can you recommend a less expensive laptop? Linux isn't a must(how square can I be) I know that you bought a new notebook not so long ago, do you still like it?
I like my laptop fine. If I have one quibble, it's that the left side of where my palm rests gets kinda warm. If I run the F@H client, it gets hot. It doesn't burn me, but it does get noticably hot.
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