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Old 27th October, 2007, 06:28 PM
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wireless aol, without aol, on one pc and with it on another, help

ok, i shall explane, having moved home for a while i wish to make the home pcs aol into wireless so i can use it on my laptop,

i know this is relativly easy by getting a wireless adsl router and programing it with the username@a.. blar and password.


but if i want to leave the home pc as it is, without even changing the modem thats on it, errrrr

can i run the phone line through a router into the pc, which uses its bt voyager 100, and run my laptop seperatly from the wireless router.

i hope that rambling made sence, reasoning is my mother is paranoid and thinks changing the screensaver might break a pc, i say it wont, she says, 'well you never know, best not' kinda thing, not worth arguing with that level of technophobia.

i could just change it without telling her, but thats a last resort

and if this would work any sugestions on a not to pricy wi-fi joby i can buy

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Old 28th October, 2007, 05:47 AM
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So is your main pc dial up?
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Old 28th October, 2007, 12:55 PM
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no sorry should have said that its on aol broadband, which is at 8mbit suposadly, does download things at relativly high speeds for the money thougnh.

the home pc has a by voyager 100 usb external adsl modem
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Old 28th October, 2007, 01:55 PM
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So you have a external DSL modem connected via USB.

I assume its only a single port, and cannot be connected except via USB.

There are 1 of 2 things you could do.

1. If the voyager modem connects to the phone via RJ45

Use a wireless router/modem to connect directly to the phone line.
Connect the voyager to the wireless via the internet port.
Put the logon creds onto the wireless, and remove them from the voyager (tell it it doesn't need to logon for internet).

or

2. If it uses RJ11/BT/etc (other phone plug), and the wireless has RJ45 internet connections
Connect the wireless to the RJ45 LAN socket of the computer
Bridge the connection to allow direct passthrough
Tell the wireless it doesn't need password/etc to connect to the internet.

If it doesn't have a RJ45 modem port just connect it to the computer via a standard RJ45 port, on one of the standar outlets.

Make sure you use WPA security and MAC filtering on the wireless.

If you need it I can make a quick mockup in paint and post it.
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Old 29th October, 2007, 11:17 AM
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2. If it uses RJ11/BT/etc (other phone plug), and the wireless has RJ45 internet connections
Connect the wireless to the RJ45 LAN socket of the computer
Bridge the connection to allow direct passthrough
Tell the wireless it doesn't need password/etc to connect to the internet.

If it doesn't have a RJ45 modem port just connect it to the computer via a standard RJ45 port, on one of the standar outlets.

Make sure you use WPA security and MAC filtering on the wireless.

If you need it I can make a quick mockup in paint and post it.
ok i duno what the jack is called,

the modem goes into a little box that says bt adsl mf50 on it,

its a splitter that plugs into the regular phone line and has one regular phone jack on it and one line out that just says dsl on it, its a smaller jack then the phones one, its not an rj45

my problem is i want the wireless and home computer to both work on the net seperatly, with or without the house pc being on, think this might only work if i just replace the modem on the home pc with a wireless one. and explane it away

anyone know any good routers for this?? theres loads on ebay and i susspect almost any of them will do but i figured id ask
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Old 29th October, 2007, 02:24 PM
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I like linksys, but not sure as a wireless modem/router.

maybe dynalink / dlink, they're pretty cheap.
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update, i got a d-link dsl-g604t (incase that means anything to anyone) gona have to put a ethernet card in the house pc as it turns out to not have one lol

i did cheak but its dark down there and theres a hole for it, but the motherboard doesnt actually have one lol ooops

thankfully i have a dlink card somewhere

shall report back when its done
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update, i got a d-link dsl-g604t (incase that means anything to anyone) gona have to put a ethernet card in the house pc as it turns out to not have one lol

i did cheak but its dark down there and theres a hole for it, but the motherboard doesnt actually have one lol ooops

thankfully i have a dlink card somewhere

shall report back when its done
Most Mobos should have onboard LAN.
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Old 8th November, 2007, 06:27 PM
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arrr heeelllp

luck isnt on my side today

Pitch the pc is a fujitsu(i cant spell)seamens ex commet display model circa 2000, maybe 2001, its crap


anyhow

i pluged the router into the mains then the ethernet cabel to my laptop then to the phone line.

cheacked that all my network settings are back to normal after uni, they are

go to http://192.blar blar as instructed, nothing, confused i go to the network conections thing and it says that the connection has limmeted or no connection or somthing. so i figure, stick the ethernet card in the pc and use that instead, worry about the laptop later

stick it in all is fine, plug in the router to that and type http:.... and,,,, it opens aol, please type in your password.


errrrrr.

im a geek, but im out of ideas i've got no idea why it wont work, hence still using the house pc with the old modem at the mo

i cheaked on my laptops wireless which has a 'exalent' signal from the thing, and wont go to the http:.... on the wireless either

penny for your thoughts
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Old 8th November, 2007, 06:42 PM
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haha, sucsess while using the old modem to be on the net firefox will not go to the router with is also pluged in but not to the phone line


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1. in XP (laptop) make sure your ethernet is using DHCP
2. to connect to router it states in the manual to use 10.1.1.1
You can check this after you get a connection by the following
enter command prompt, enter 'ipconfig' and the output for Default gateway will be the address.

You should then be able to configure it via the browser - make sure you allow javascript. I have also found D-Link are a bit funny if you don't use IE or Firefox.


In the Fujitsu, what OS are you running? Basically W2k is the same as XP for this. What you may have to do is make sure it has SP4 but its best to have all the updates. You will most likely have to do a release/renew on the IP - just make sure you have dhcp set in network connections. Sorry pre W2k can't really help you, and as for Me, don't bother.

It looks like you can biff the old USB modem, as this has the ability to utilise your phone jack - just make sure that the ADSL ver you have is supported by the dlink
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