AOA AOA AOA Folding For Team 45 AOA Files Home Front Page Become an AOA Subscriber! UserCP Calendar Memberlist FAQ Search Forum Home


Go Back   AOA > Hardware > Mobile Devices and Networking

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 27th July, 2009, 11:47 AM
Daniel ~'s Avatar
Chief BBS Administrator
 
Join Date: September 2001
Location: Seattle Wa.
Posts: 40,424

Hacker Says iPhone is Incredibly Insecure, "Useless" for Businesses

Written by Daniel
Monday, 27 July 2009
Apple says its iPhone 3G S is "ready for business", however one leading hacker calls it "useless" for business users, thanks to its woefully poor encryption and security.

Jason Mick (Blog) - July 24, 2009 1:42 PM

He says the phones pose a serious threat to companies adopting them. Still, some companies say it's worth the risk.
(Source: The iPhone Blog)

The iPhone yet again experiencing criticism over poor security [Front page...]
__________________
"Though all men live in ignorance before mystery,
they need not live in darkness...
Justice is foundation and ETERNAL
."
DKE

"All that we do is touched by Ocean
Yet we remain on the shore of what we know."
Richard Wilbur


Subscribers! Ask Pitch about a Custom Sig Graphic

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 28th July, 2009, 09:51 AM
Áedán's Avatar
Chief Systems Administrator
 
Join Date: September 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 12,248

See my comment in this thread: Apple's iPhoneware update snuffs tethering hack.

The iPhone's encryption ensures that if someone unsolders the FLASH in an iPhone, they can't get at the data. However, if someone uses the USB connection to gain access, the OS will helpfully decrypt the data for them.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 28th July, 2009, 11:19 AM
Daniel ~'s Avatar
Chief BBS Administrator
 
Join Date: September 2001
Location: Seattle Wa.
Posts: 40,424

I just love this part:

"Still, some companies say it's worth the risk."

My question: Worth it until when?
__________________
"Though all men live in ignorance before mystery,
they need not live in darkness...
Justice is foundation and ETERNAL
."
DKE

"All that we do is touched by Ocean
Yet we remain on the shore of what we know."
Richard Wilbur


Subscribers! Ask Pitch about a Custom Sig Graphic

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 28th July, 2009, 12:21 PM
dsio's Avatar
Possum Hater
 
Join Date: October 2002
Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Posts: 7,700

Well... Typing this from my new 3GS ATM. Which does in fact contain everything including my passwords and rsa keys. But then I do enjoy living dangerously.
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 28th July, 2009, 12:23 PM
dsio's Avatar
Possum Hater
 
Join Date: October 2002
Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Posts: 7,700

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsio View Post
Well... Typing this from my new 3GS ATM. Which does in fact contain everything including my passwords and rsa keys. But then I do enjoy living dangerously.
Posted via Mobile Device
Btw how do you choose to go to the big boys version of aoa instead of the mobile version?
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 28th July, 2009, 03:10 PM
Gizmo's Avatar
Chief BBS Administrator
BassTeroids Champion, Global Player Champion, Aim & Fire Champion, Puzzle Maniax Champion, Othello Champion, Canyon Glider Champion, UFO Shoot Out Champion, Unicycle Challenge Champion, Zed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Webb City, Mo
Posts: 14,946
Send a message via ICQ to Gizmo Send a message via AIM to Gizmo Send a message via MSN to Gizmo Send a message via Yahoo to Gizmo Send a message via Skype™ to Gizmo

Right now, you don't.

Let me see if I can do a quick template edit to fix that.
__________________
Avatar and sig graphic by Pitch. Subscribers!
Ask about a custom graphic or avatar today!
 
Later,
Gizmo
Thermal Diode Mod and Direct-Die Water Block
8-Cheetah 18GiB U-2 SCSI
MegaRAID Enterprise 1500/128MiB
Samsung SyncMaster 955DF
TTGI/Superflower TTS-520 PSU
 

 
AOA Team filesAOA Team wcgAOA Team fah
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 28th July, 2009, 03:19 PM
Gizmo's Avatar
Chief BBS Administrator
BassTeroids Champion, Global Player Champion, Aim & Fire Champion, Puzzle Maniax Champion, Othello Champion, Canyon Glider Champion, UFO Shoot Out Champion, Unicycle Challenge Champion, Zed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Webb City, Mo
Posts: 14,946
Send a message via ICQ to Gizmo Send a message via AIM to Gizmo Send a message via MSN to Gizmo Send a message via Yahoo to Gizmo Send a message via Skype™ to Gizmo

If you scroll down to near the bottom of the page, you should see a drop-down to change the forum style.
__________________
Avatar and sig graphic by Pitch. Subscribers!
Ask about a custom graphic or avatar today!
 
Later,
Gizmo
Thermal Diode Mod and Direct-Die Water Block
8-Cheetah 18GiB U-2 SCSI
MegaRAID Enterprise 1500/128MiB
Samsung SyncMaster 955DF
TTGI/Superflower TTS-520 PSU
 

 
AOA Team filesAOA Team wcgAOA Team fah
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 28th July, 2009, 04:00 PM
Daniel ~'s Avatar
Chief BBS Administrator
 
Join Date: September 2001
Location: Seattle Wa.
Posts: 40,424

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsio View Post
Well... Typing this from my new 3GS ATM. Which does in fact contain everything including my passwords and rsa keys. But then I do enjoy living dangerously.
Posted via Mobile Device
Until when? ":O}
__________________
"Though all men live in ignorance before mystery,
they need not live in darkness...
Justice is foundation and ETERNAL
."
DKE

"All that we do is touched by Ocean
Yet we remain on the shore of what we know."
Richard Wilbur


Subscribers! Ask Pitch about a Custom Sig Graphic

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 29th July, 2009, 06:52 AM
Áedán's Avatar
Chief Systems Administrator
 
Join Date: September 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 12,248

Maybe one day Apple will wake up to the fact that there's a whole bunch of people who would like to be able to use an iPhone instead of a Blackberry. Apple have got the iPhone to the EAS stage, so it can talk to Exchange servers. Without encryption though, that's a bad idea. Compared to the work RIM have put in place on the Blackberry, Apple is light years behind. Apple is significantly behind Windows Mobile in this area too.

From my experience with the 3G S, the data on it might as well not be encrypted for the ease of being able to extract it. The "encryption" really doesn't protect anything at all.
__________________

Last edited by Áedán; 29th July, 2009 at 06:55 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 29th July, 2009, 09:38 AM
danrok's Avatar
AOA Front Page Managing Editor in Chief
 
Join Date: March 2003
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 16,702

The mobile skin for the forum could do with some minor tweaks, such as a larger font size. It works fine, but is really tiny. Having to zoom is awkward.
__________________
AOA Team fah
I am folding with an AMD A64, Intel Atom, nvidia GPU, & PS3 Cell Processor. Join AOA's team today!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 30th July, 2009, 11:56 AM
danrok's Avatar
AOA Front Page Managing Editor in Chief
 
Join Date: March 2003
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 16,702

Quote:
Originally Posted by Áedán View Post
See my comment in this thread: Apple's iPhoneware update snuffs tethering hack.

The iPhone's encryption ensures that if someone unsolders the FLASH in an iPhone, they can't get at the data. However, if someone uses the USB connection to gain access, the OS will helpfully decrypt the data for them.
Is the security poor just if someone gets hold of your phone, or can it be compromised remotely?
__________________
AOA Team fah
I am folding with an AMD A64, Intel Atom, nvidia GPU, & PS3 Cell Processor. Join AOA's team today!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 31st July, 2009, 05:33 AM
Áedán's Avatar
Chief Systems Administrator
 
Join Date: September 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 12,248

There's two aspects for the current version of the OS. Firstly, the encryption doesn't protect the data on the phone except for one specific, complicated attack that is irrelevant. Secondly, the phone can be compromised remotely.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Greenpeace Deems iPhone "Toxic" Daniel ~ Mobile Devices and Networking 0 16th October, 2007 11:33 AM
iPhone lacking Java is a "mistake" danrok OS, Software, Firmware, and BIOS 3 1st October, 2007 11:22 AM
"iPhone tops July smart-phone sales" Daniel ~ Mobile Devices and Networking 11 7th September, 2007 09:41 PM
"AMD: Bringing "Torrenza" and "Fusion" Together" Daniel ~ AMD Motherboards & CPUs 1 19th March, 2007 08:59 PM
Latest ATI "R600," "R610" and "R630" details danrok Graphics and Sound cards; Speakers and other Peripherals 0 9th January, 2007 04:44 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:15 PM.


Copyright ©2001 - 2009, AOA Forums

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0