Guide to troubleshooting Windows and Office

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Daniel ~

I do have that choice. But many here do not! MS hegemony insures that if you want to do business, in almost all cases you'll have to bow to MS.

The worst part is...we let him do it!

sad but true.

And it doesn't matter, Daniel. As alone as it may seem, you are far from it.

[noob]

The reason why we 'Let him do it' is because look at windows. I mean, it so damn easy for someone who has never used a computer to use, it allows a huge range of compatabilities, first within the MS range of product, also the large range of hardware configurations. Also MS does support developers when developing products for MS OS's or apps.

While this is good for Bill in the large revenue he has gained from this, it is still hard to get any program to do this. Ask anyone who has developed anything.

Its not the countries such as USA, Europe and such, its mostly the Asian countries where the rate of piracy is at levels above 50%. When you look at the proportion of the worlds population in these countries, it means a huge proportion of the worlds population is using pirated software. When the software is released it is essentially the same software worldwide, the only difference is an addition of local languages.

While I agree activation is a pain, I have never had a problem whenever I have had to call them. And the one time I did - before working for MS, I was put through to the main MS call centre for NZ as it wouldn't activate, and they took a couple of numbers off me, asked a couple of questions, then gave me a new product key.

The reason for the addition of additional security is to prevent the illegal propagation of unlicensed software. Just think, it took almost 3 years to develop windows 98 from windows 95. A further 2 years to get Windows 2000, and another 2 years for Windows XP. It looks as Longhorn is going to take about 5 years from when XP was released. This constitutes a large amount of resources put in, therefore the benefits to the company are equally large. As MS is owned by 1 person (lucky bastard really), he becomes the most wealthy person in the world. Just think, how wealthy are the people (plural) that own Sony, Ford, GM, Intel, AMD, oil companies, etc, etc. If the wealth from any one of those companies was combined into a singular entity it would definately rival or be more than what Bill has.

For all those people who complain about the MS monopoly, well use something else. There are alot of alternatives out there. Also if you don't like the incompatability of a certain product you want to use on YOUR choice of OS, write your own. There is so much documentation out there regarding the development of different programs, including examples of code, you don't need a degree to start developing. Hell MS will even help you, just look to the MSDN and Technet sites.

Think, what can you use with a current Mac? You have almost no choice of hardware, and if you want to upgrade, you have to purchase an entire new machine, hardware and software. If they had made it as compatable as MS then we would be complain about them and not MS.

Also the cost of a Mac on comparison to a new machine running MS? Mac's are alot more expensive.

Now after that rant my opinions are based on what I have seen and heard from within MS and outside. I am not 'pro' MS, infact I detest certain MS practices, e.g. forcing IE, OE, and Media player on us. But I defend Bills right to make as much money as he can, I would, and I challenge any one else to deny it if the role between them and Bill were reversed.

If you 'hate' MS so much, come up with your own OS and apps, if its any good I may even buy it. But it would have to be compatable with almost everything I want to do, to use it on a daily basis.

BTW this thread was for troubleshooting not general rants and raves. There is a thread on this here

[cadaveca]

Sry noob, nobody who's been into the industry for long can go without talking good or bad about microsoft...there are alot of deep emotions there i think. And thanks for putting this all together in one place, i've used it already.

[Daniel ~]

Hi Noob.

My problem is NOT with the OS, although...":O}

My problem is in the ethical realm. MS treatment of....everybody.

In Some countries...50%?

Dude, this is the computer age! I have a sneaking suspicion that if MS tried really really hard they could use activation WHERE NEEDED.

HERE by your figures, 99% of us put up with this crap so Bill feels better about the 1 percent... does that sound rational to you?

I personally don't care how well activation works! Since when do we assume that a customer is a thief and should be treated as such? Since Bill.

I guess Bill knows his own heart.

I'm tried of the world jumping through hoops to make Bill feel safe.

Do any of you feel safe with Bill?

I'm just still stuck on "The greatest good for the greatest number"

Bill thinks the greatest number is the greatest good so long as it's only dividable by one.

The man is ill and because we largely share his illness we call it health.

As to the alternatives, like MS hasn't done all it could to prevent them!

But that is not my point. On the whole I like 2000 Pro.

It's isn't the army or who owns it, but what's done with it. If Bill offered eternal life I'd look for flames.

I bear no grudge against any who work for MS, Bill and his kind own the world.

Should we not eat because the land has been stolen from us?

"But I defend Bills right to make as much money as he can, I would, and I challenge any one else to deny it if the role between them and Bill were reversed."

No sweat. I die before becoming Bill. This is the illness I spoke of earlier. More is not better, just more, ask a tumor. More for the sake of more is the philosophy of the cancer cell.

It doesn't take strength to not be bill, just clarity.

So you defend the right of a single man to create and contribute to famine?

Well we do live on a finite planet. Once Bill has all he wants how much do you think that will leave to feed the kids?

Maybe Bill will throw them a few crumbs, a discount on software say...

You can't have both. Either we have men who know no limitation and the masses who know famine...OR.. we establish just and equitable conditions under which most men may prosper.

I defend the right of all men to demand justice.

Though to sick to know it Bill would be infinitely better off....

Bill's life is a curse. Why have you not seen that Noob?

Imagine seeing the pain of Africa, having the recourses to make a REAL difference and not be able to part with what you do not need to help them.

Bill is cursed among men, if you don't see that you should quit and run away.

(Just the opinion of one who dares to say that Bills values are an illness I would happily reject...":O}

Don't I want prosperity? YES and MORE! But if I have to leave you behind to archive it, it's not prosperity but a famine upon the land.

Bill is starving to death before our eyes and most poor fools think he is growing fat... that's just his tumor.

So Noob, I hope your be spending some of that free time you'll have here at AOA! LOL

[noob]

While I do believe in most of what you say Daniel. I also believe excess wealth can corrupt. When people talk about what would they wish for if they had only 1 wish - mine would be for eternal happiness, for everyone. I also believe that ultimate waelth and/or power corrupts a person, no matter the beginings.

Maybe if a few of the wealthiest people got together and actually co-operated they could end world poverty in as little as 10yrs. The only way to do this would be to set up an infrastructure in those countries which allows the people to help themselves. This in turn would make those people even wealthier in the long term. But basically they would require a huge army to negate those warlords who take everything for themselves. It has been shown through the ages, the prosperity of the rich is directly responsible for the prosperity of the poor. So by creating an infrastructure which allows those countries which have starving people, to become prosperous, huge (billions) amounts of money would have to be spent, and this could only happen if assurances were in place for the people who did this to make a profit.

I agree that anyone who spends time in the industry has their pet hates and loves regarding the different software vendors.

My main hate is that people keep talking about how bad MS software is when it actually has the greatest compatabilities, and the most documentation regarding troubleshooting.
My main 2 problems, is the inability of people to help themselves, and blame the software for any problems, and my second is the way MS forces certain products to be used.

My challenge wasn't so much to live in Bills shoes (I personally would hate to) but to reject an ability or idea which would bring you that level of revenue. What you then do with that wealth is up to you.

I will still be spending some of my free time here (I'm engaged so its not that much anymore) hoping to help some people and to expand my own knowledge.

[Daniel ~]

Actually history shows the wealth exists among the middle and lower classes exactly to the extent that we take it BACK from the rich!.

Very few of the very wealthy have ever done a damn thing, almost all great wealth is inherited.

The Rich DON'T create, though occasionally the creative do grow rich. Study the robber barons of the 18th and 19th century. You will be amazed at an evil and a selfishness beyond imagining!

You see temptation is always a matter of clarity.
A matter of weather we want to see the situation as it really is. Or in Bill's case no longer able to see anything at all.

Great wealth has only one legitimate purpose, to redisberse and benefit the people that wealth was derived from. WE are the source of all wreath! Period.

Wealth that never reaches the people never sees a benefit.

Excess is the great disease of mankind. It is not money that is the root of all evil, money has many important functions!

Indifference to the good, is the root of all evil.

Money as a tool should accomplish for the people or perish.

The job of all statecraft is to establish just and equitable conditions. Let those who can use wealth to benefit the people have wealth to work with. But personal wealth should ALWAYS be limited to what leaves the poorest of the poor with sufficiency.

Bill really doesn't care how many starve, just so he thinks he looks good while they do.

Sorry. I get a bit pumped up about this...":O}

[noob]

Daniel, I agree with you, nowdays most of the wealthy have no reason, or no function.
Unfortunately a certain level of wealthy will always be around and is even required. As during 'hard times' the average person is unable to buy food, but the wealthy can buy luxuries. Because of this fact the economy can recover (they can buy jewellery, the shop owner can pay staff, they can buy food, etc).


Except for the Robber barons (they were evil), and how its now changed, the original caste system was setup up for several reasons.

The original Lords were setup to provide a governing body, and as caretakers of the land. They were supposed to be provided wealth (via taxes or tithes), so no other distractions would intervene from them caring for the land and people. The Lord of Lords (ie King) was then setup as the final decision maker, and arbitrator. The lack of having to do hard work, was made up for by greater responsibility, and the common man was able to be heard, and was respected, at any time day or night. This was later changed to a specific day (a whole one from several hrs before daylight, till 'midnight').

So while they did have a purpose, most no longer do. But try and tell them that. I believe with greater wealth comes greater responsibility, and the requirement to do right. Unfortunatley there are no 'moral' police to change things back to this. Even though I believe we were originally given the right to 'remove' those from office by any means necessary, it needed a majority voe though (organised seperately).

But nowdays, the greatest thing they ever do is something 'scandalous' and I personally wish they would all just drop dead, I'm sick of hearing about them.

Now we have polititions as well, and they are just as bad!

The reason for the corruption of this power is our own stupid selves. If we didn't make it so easy for them to abuse their position they still wouldn't. Also in regards to equality, I am for it up to a point. I may earn more than average, but I also put in more than 'average' hours, have more than 'average' responsibility, and its alot easier for me to lose my job than 'average' so why should I then get taxed down to the point of everyone else - I work for it, I get to spend it. If you refuse to work, or contribute to society (ie work), why should I pay for you to get a free ride. I understand if you have a genuine reason, but if you don't: Get off your fat lazy a** and get a job! I refuse to pay for your free ride. Why should I work 50+ hrs a week so you can buy your ciggis, drink your beer, and steal from me, while cursing the rich as having everything. How about GET A JOB YOU LAZY SCUM! I find that those people who refuse to help themselves, or contribute for whatever reason (there are some legit reasons and I recognise those, disabilities, etc), worse than those who own everything (well people like bill who created his wealth).

Sorry this is my pet hate

I personally would like to have an 'empire', I would do a few thing differently to most companies though. Each employee would have a certain amount of shares in the company. These shares dissappear when they leave, but all employees will be able to be paid in several ways whenever the company pays out dividends. They could get more shares (these wouldn't dissappear) depending how many are in a 'pool' for employees (i still want more than 50%, in a trust of course), a monetary payout, or a combination. But as previously stated, as I became more successful I could hire more people, creating more wealth for the community, but also in turn creating more wealth for my 'empire', in turn allowing me to expand, and etc. Maybe one day I could 'own' the planet

Anyway woman are evil I can prove it mathematically

Women = money x time

we know that time = money

Women = money x money
Women = money²

we know that money = √evil

Women = √evil²
Women = evil

See its not our fault
(Sorry if I offend anyone, but I thought that was funny, I normally get jokes at work that are basically the opposite, I have 2 sisters and a fiance who send me stuff).

[Daniel ~]

Forgive my scattered approach, so much here worth looking into!

I'm all for wealth! Wealth can be altogether a good thing! I'm apposed to unlimited wealth.

Here I'd suggest something very easy to implement, been done in quite a few countries. Instead of making the super rich tax FREE, tax the hell out of them!

If you need more that ten times the average income to get done what you want to do, maybe someone else should do it. Someone who can organize support.

This isn't about wealth, but about establishing firm limitations upon which correct action and social intercourse depend.

All things depend upon the correct limitation being found!

To many Lions...no savanna!
To many raindrops... no firmament!

To many hungry kids... no peace of mind.

Personally I think you have hard times a bit confused. They aren't a season of the year. They are the ebb and flow of greed among the rich and powerful.

They are the result of excess. The world can't afford Bill a $70,000,000 house AND feed the poor. It's finite, this world, and all that's in it, knows limitation!

What limits a thing helps to "complete" a thing.

Without the necessary limitations upon his actions, upon a mans rights and responsibilities, a man's life would disolve into the boundless.

The rich have no part in recovery! They still want luxury, while the people starve, this is not a benefit! This will not reclaim land butchered by corporate farming practices!

This will not educated our children to a better life! This just squanders our limited resources!

You see your example implys that in a depression it doesn't matter what direction we head, what we undertake, so long as we move, we recover.

This is not the case. We can employ millions in undertakings that will finish off the planet! And the rich are just the guys to tell us how to do it!

We can see recovery lead only to disaster.

We can work and get paid very well for our efforts to destroy humanity.

Yes the masses are stupid. It's been my observation that human brains really don't work all that well.

The best human brains don't work all that well.

Should we despise them because they must trust us when they do not understand what seems to be beyond them?

That's just what the damaged brains of the rich tell them to do.

My own damaged brain tells me that they are my brothers and sisters and can be educated to better lives. That those in power can justify their position only when this is being done.

When this is not being done, those in power must be replaced... by whatever means necessary.

Who are these people? These people who are so lazy and who steal from you? Who wants a free ride? Why do they frighten you? Is it that they look so much like you in the shower or on the beach?

How many have you met? My Step-Father would have loved to work just a 50 hour week! He worked 16 hour days 7 days, for months at a time as Diesel mechanic in El Centro in 120F!

He dies at 62.

To be honest, 50 hours weeks seem flat out lazy to me!

What if I offered you instead a really good job like my Step-fathers at a wage that insured you'd work 16 hours a day seven days a week for months at a time...still want to talk about lazy?

You've got a good job and that's nothing to be ashamed of... But please realize that you know practically nothing of these "Lazy" people.

The oppressed are nearly always seen as lazy by their oppressors.I tell you we can be educated to better lives. We have have difficulties, we endure deprivations every day, we have been given a head full of really bad ideas by the puppets of the rich and powerful.

But we gave birth to the rich.

They are the failing of the poor, to raise sons and daughters that love money more than us.

Well I warned you I wasn't in the mood to make my cracked brain proceed in an orderly fashion.... Be well Noob. ":O}

[noob]

Made major changes to the post, now combined into one, and added some attachments, also added Windows Genuine Advantage

[Daniel ~]

We learn as we go..":O}