Fedora 7, Linix made...well do-able so far!

[Daniel ~]

Dsio and I worked late into the nigh, 5:00 AM here, he quit for supper.

We wanted to catch up any who are following our efforts in a previouse thread with an eye to giving Fedora a try themselves. After a bit of thought realized I had a pretty good tool for including any who are interested.

I saved the nights IM conversation for my own records, hey I'm going to have to this again right? NO MAN has the right to ask dsio to miss lunch twice in one lifetime!!

A word about IM and me. I will respond to Admin and my site partners. After numerous attempts, over years by my partners I'm finally persuaded it has it's uses getting site work done. That's business.

I don't otherwise use it and I won't otherwise use it for you.":O}
I sincerely hope that everyone understands this is just me and how I live my life, no feelings should be hurt by this and I'm not responsible if any are.


(02:26:19 AM) dsio: if you cant read this I'll murder you.
(02:27:37 AM) dsio: You home?
(02:27:46 AM) Daniel: I can, but it's backwards ":O}
(02:27:52 AM) dsio: Thank Allah.
(02:27:55 AM) dsio: backwards?
(02:28:14 AM) Daniel: A Dyslecic joke ":O}
(02:28:20 AM) dsio: right...
(02:28:31 AM) Daniel: Were to begin? ":O}
(02:28:35 AM) dsio: well ok, now... sound card.
(02:28:51 AM) Daniel: I'm listening ":O}
(02:28:54 AM) dsio: system -> administration -> sound card detection.
(02:29:03 AM) Daniel: Going
(02:29:18 AM) dsio: Hopefully you have the sound card plugged into some speakers or something (analog, not digital)
(02:30:07 AM) Daniel: I have it connected. I have sound from my Onboard, but it still won't reconize either
(02:30:18 AM) dsio: So the onboard sound is working?
(02:31:08 AM) Daniel: Yes I hear systen sound, but it doesn't detect when I hit test here, elsewhere it does!
(02:31:40 AM) Daniel: Should I switch over to the C-Media?
(02:31:43 AM) dsio: click on the settings tab, and tell me what default audio card id set to
(02:31:51 AM) dsio: *is
(02:32:03 AM) Daniel: Intel
(02:32:10 AM) dsio: default PCM device?
(02:32:39 AM) Daniel: AlC882 Analon, omn my quad speakes connect to omnboard
(02:33:08 AM) dsio: where it says Audio Cards Order near the bottom, does it have both sound cards listed there?
(02:33:21 AM) Daniel: Yes
(02:33:27 AM) Daniel: Intel 1st
(02:33:29 AM) dsio: which one is at the top?
(02:33:32 AM) dsio: ok cool
(02:33:46 AM) dsio: now double click on the little speaker in the top right of your screen.
(02:33:54 AM) dsio: it should bring up the volume control.
(02:34:23 AM) dsio: tell me what card is mentioned in the title bar of the volume control window
(02:34:41 AM) dsio: It should say Volume Control: (something)
(02:34:56 AM) Daniel: I see the speaker, but it just gives a menu
(02:35:19 AM) dsio: right click on it, and click Open Volume Control then
(02:36:27 AM) Daniel: It just gives work space options
(02:37:01 AM) Daniel: Always on top, like that
(02:37:34 AM) dsio: hmm.
(02:38:23 AM) Daniel: In settings, it "see" both, but fails the sound test, set to Intel now
(02:38:57 AM) Daniel: SORRY! that's in sound test!
(02:39:41 AM) Daniel: Damn thing says they are detected!
(02:40:22 AM) Daniel: Automatic detection of the sound card did not work. This audio device will not be available on the system.

You can create /root/scsconfig.log, /root/scsrun.log on the System tab and file a new bug
at http://bugzilla.redhat.com.

Please click OK to continue.
(02:41:01 AM) dsio: Try this way. close that, and go to System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Volume control
(02:41:32 AM) Daniel: There now
(02:41:51 AM) dsio: At the top bar, it says Volume Control: (something)
(02:41:58 AM) dsio: what sound card is listed at the top
(02:42:32 AM) Daniel: HDA Intel (Alsa mixer)
(02:42:40 AM) dsio: awesome
(02:43:00 AM) dsio: well it should all be right then.
(02:43:14 AM) dsio: we'll get you an audio player for some testing.
(02:43:16 AM) Daniel: But fails sound test LOL
(02:43:21 AM) dsio: who cares :P
(02:43:38 AM) dsio: ok, now what version do you have, 32 bit or 64 bit
(02:43:55 AM) Daniel: We need to re set security. I have comcast raido installed but it won't let me use it.
(02:44:06 AM) Daniel: 32
(02:44:39 AM) dsio: sorry whats that?
(02:45:05 AM) Daniel: Cable connect give me free tunes
(02:45:31 AM) dsio: hmm. work on that in a minute.
(02:45:42 AM) dsio: first, open a terminal and su to root
(02:45:49 AM) Daniel: OK, but might grabs us as we go.
(02:46:02 AM) Daniel: opening
(02:46:24 AM) Daniel: there
(02:46:58 AM) Daniel: gottas piss, be right back!
(02:47:31 AM) dsio: now that you are on the terminal as root, paste in this:
(02:47:36 AM) dsio: wget http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm
(02:47:53 AM) dsio: tell me when thats done
(02:49:18 AM) Daniel: [Daniel@dhcppc1 ~]$ su
Password:
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm
bash: http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm: No such file or directory
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(02:50:18 AM) dsio: you missed the wget part
(02:50:26 AM) dsio: wget = web get (get from the web)
(02:50:53 AM) dsio: Including the wget: wget http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm
(02:52:17 AM) Daniel: Were on!
(02:52:33 AM) dsio: now paste this: rpm -Uhv livna-release-7.rpm
(02:52:40 AM) Daniel: [root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# wget http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm
--02:52:05-- http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm
=> `livna-release-7.rpm'
Resolving rpm.livna.org... 193.28.235.40
Connecting to rpm.livna.org|193.28.235.40|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 9,150 (8.9K) [application/x-rpm]

100%[====================================>] 9,150 23.64K/s

02:52:06 (23.54 KB/s) - `livna-release-7.rpm' saved [9150/9150]

[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(02:52:53 AM) dsio: paste this: rpm -Uhv livna-release-7.rpm
(02:53:40 AM) Daniel: 02:52:06 (23.54 KB/s) - `livna-release-7.rpm' saved [9150/9150]

[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# rpm -Uhv livna-release-7.rpm
warning: livna-release-7.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID a109b1ec
Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
1:livna-release ########################################### [100%]
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

[Daniel ~]

[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(02:53:55 AM) dsio: good, not Livna is installed.
(02:54:20 AM) dsio: now paste this: yum install kmod-nvidia
(02:54:27 AM) Daniel: I'm so excited! what is it? ":O}
(02:54:38 AM) dsio: Livna is a source of packages not provided by Fedora
(02:54:41 AM) Daniel: Ah! This one I know!
(02:55:09 AM) Daniel: runnibg
(02:55:13 AM) dsio: you may have noticed that last time when you tried to insall kmod-nvidia, it didnt install it.
(02:55:37 AM) Daniel: yep, now I know why":O}
(02:56:02 AM) dsio: thats because its at Livna
(02:56:05 AM) Daniel: Fun watching things create themselves.
(02:56:45 AM) dsio: paste the last few lines of the output once it finishes, and answer yes when it asks you if you want to continue.
(02:57:32 AM) dsio: I mean paste them into the chat window
(02:57:35 AM) Unable to send message: The message is too large.
(02:57:37 AM) dsio: so i can read them
(02:58:21 AM) Daniel: Total download size: 7.4 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/3): livna-config-displ 100% |=========================| 58 kB 00:01
(2/3): xorg-x11-drv-nvidi 100% |=========================| 4.9 MB 00:18
(3/3): kmod-nvidia-100.14 100% |=========================| 2.4 MB 00:12
warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID a109b1ec
Importing GPG key 0xA109B1EC "Livna.org rpms <rpm-key@livna.org>" from /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: livna-config-display ######################### [1/3]
Installing: kmod-nvidia ######################### [2/3]
Installing: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia ######################### [3/3]

Installed: kmod-nvidia.i686 0:100.14.11-1.2.6.21_1.3228.fc7
Dependency Installed: livna-config-display.noarch 0:0.0.14b-1.lvn7 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.i386 0:100.14.11-1.lvn7
Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(02:58:36 AM) dsio: perfect
(02:58:36 AM) Daniel: Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: livna-config-display ######################### [1/3]
Installing: kmod-nvidia ######################### [2/3]
Installing: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia ######################### [3/3]

Installed: kmod-nvidia.i686 0:100.14.11-1.2.6.21_1.3228.fc7
Dependency Installed: livna-config-display.noarch 0:0.0.14b-1.lvn7 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.i386 0:100.14.11-1.lvn7
Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(02:58:41 AM) dsio: perfect
(02:59:04 AM) Daniel: KEPT try to paste to much for MSN
(02:59:15 AM) dsio: now, id like you to do a complete reboot. do it propperly by going to system -> Shut Down -> and clicking restart
(02:59:27 AM) dsio: when you come back, log into pidgin again so I can talk to you.
(02:59:39 AM) Daniel: See you then!

REBOOT

(03:04:25 AM) Daniel: BIG God Damn Nvidia splash screen! LOL
(03:04:43 AM) dsio: That means it worked. It looks pretty cool too if I don't say so
(03:04:52 AM) dsio: congrats, you have installed your nvidia drivers.
(03:05:12 AM) Daniel: I think so...after ALLLLL thisd time try for this...5 yrears! ":O}
(03:05:25 AM) dsio: from now on, every time you update your system, yum will automatically upgrade you to the absolute latest 3d drivers.
(03:05:38 AM) Daniel: SO COOL! LOL
(03:06:03 AM) dsio: next. open a terminal and su to root again. and run this: yum install beryl
(03:06:13 AM) Daniel: Did we get every thing Nvidia?
(03:06:15 AM) dsio: I know you've done it before, but it cant hurt doing it again just in case.
(03:06:26 AM) dsio: yeap
(03:06:29 AM) Daniel: Cool!
(03:06:36 AM) Daniel: Both counts!
(03:06:55 AM) dsio: let me know when you've run yum install beryl as root in a terminal
(03:07:14 AM) dsio: paste the last few lines of output as well
(03:07:16 AM) Daniel: Installing
(03:07:58 AM) Daniel: [Daniel@dhcppc1 ~]$ su
Password:
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# yum install beryl
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Nothing to do
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# yum install beryl
(03:08:11 AM) dsio: yeap, thats cool, means its already installed.
(03:08:36 AM) Daniel: Don't trust me? LOL me neither! ":O}
(03:09:12 AM) dsio: now, I want you to right click on the top bar, just to the right of your 'Applications Places System' menus. there should be a large grey bar across the top, just right click somewhere on it, and click on Add to Panel.
(03:09:24 AM) Daniel: Anything fancy in installing the game subscription?
(03:09:37 AM) dsio: Yea, there is, which is why Id like to wait a bit on that
(03:09:49 AM) dsio: When you click on add to panel, a new window will pop up.
(03:09:55 AM) Daniel: OK
(03:10:28 AM) dsio: Click on 'Custom Application Launcher' (the top option) and click forward down the bottom.
(03:10:42 AM) dsio: A new window should pop up on top.
(03:10:58 AM) Daniel: I'm looking...
(03:11:07 AM) dsio: Did that heppen?
(03:11:24 AM) Daniel: haven't found it yet":O
(03:11:30 AM) dsio: havnt found what yet :\
(03:11:51 AM) Daniel: I want you to right click on the top bar, just to the right of your 'Applications Places System' menus.
(03:12:15 AM) dsio: OK, you know the big grey bar across the top of the screen?
(03:12:23 AM) dsio: just right click somewhere in hte middle of it.
(03:12:32 AM) dsio: And then click
(03:12:37 AM) dsio: 'Add to panel'
(03:12:58 AM) Daniel: got it!
(03:13:15 AM) dsio: click on Custom Application Launcher, and then click forward.
(03:13:32 AM) dsio: A new small window should then pop up.
(03:13:50 AM) Daniel: create laubcher?
(03:13:56 AM) dsio: Yeap
(03:14:03 AM) Daniel: ready
(03:14:10 AM) dsio: Where it says name, enter: Beryl
(03:14:24 AM) dsio: where it says Command, enter: beryl-manager
(03:14:42 AM) dsio: exactly that, no capital letters, no changes at all, it has to be: beryl-manager
(03:14:59 AM) Daniel: cut and paste":O}
(03:15:00 AM) dsio: then click OK
(03:15:13 AM) Daniel: \done
(03:15:30 AM) dsio: now, that should have created a small icon on the top grey bar where you clicked, that looks like a red diamond
(03:15:46 AM) Daniel: It DID!
(03:15:49 AM) dsio: =D
(03:16:07 AM) dsio: now, close all windows currently open, and then I want you to click on it.
(03:16:08 AM) Daniel: A bunch of stuff in fact!
(03:16:19 AM) Daniel: This one?
(03:16:27 AM) dsio: yea, the beryl icon
(03:16:40 AM) dsio: that icon is now a launcher that starts beryl.
(03:16:47 AM) Daniel: No I mean do I need to close this one?
(03:16:57 AM) dsio: just click and drag it to the middle of the screen
(03:17:23 AM) dsio: the important thing is you keep all windows away from the sides or top/bottom of the screen, else beryl can mangle them. if its in the center of the screen, no problems.
(03:17:36 AM) Daniel: Made an Icom on desk top
(03:18:04 AM) dsio: sorry?
(03:18:43 AM) Daniel: I thought you ment to drage Berl Icon to center of screen, made an Icon! ":O}
(03:18:49 AM) dsio: ah lol
(03:19:11 AM) Daniel: All closed but MSN
(03:19:31 AM) dsio: now click on the beryl icon on the top bar. just a single click.
(03:20:00 AM) Daniel: screen flashed
(03:20:15 AM) dsio: what that should have done, is created another red diamond icon in the top right area of the top bar.
(03:20:18 AM) Daniel: reduced to one work space
(03:21:06 AM) Daniel: stiil just the one
still jut the one
(03:21:30 AM) dsio: hmm. ok do it this way.
(03:21:42 AM) dsio: open a terminal, and type in this: beryl-manager
(03:22:41 AM) dsio: tell me what the output is
(03:23:11 AM) Daniel: menu came up
menu came up

(03:23:36 AM) Daniel: but disapperaed when I camre here
(03:23:43 AM) dsio: yeap thats correct
(03:24:00 AM) Daniel: cool effects!
(03:24:07 AM) dsio: are the effects working?
(03:24:21 AM) Daniel: That or I'm drunk!
(03:24:36 AM) dsio: hold down control and alt, then click and drag somewhere on the screen
(03:24:55 AM) dsio: CTRL + ALT + Left Click while dragging the mouse around
(03:25:26 AM) Daniel: ****ing AMAZING!
(03:26:18 AM) dsio: Do something else for me, right click on the top bar again, and click on Add To Panel again
(03:26:46 AM) Daniel: there
(03:28:18 AM) Daniel: we still on?
(03:29:05 AM) Daniel: This is going to be so much fun!
(03:29:49 AM) dsio: sorry about that, was offline while changing computers.
(03:29:59 AM) Daniel: No sweat
(03:30:45 AM) dsio: there is a desktop theme manager, that works with beryl. you go to System -> Preferences -> Emerald Theme Manager.
(03:31:20 AM) Daniel: got it
(03:32:04 AM) Daniel: sweet
(03:32:12 AM) dsio: you still around?
(03:32:29 AM) Daniel: just starry eyed
(03:34:06 AM) Message could not be sent because a connection error occurred:
(03:34:06 AM) This is going to be so much fun!
(03:34:06 AM) Message could not be sent because a connection error occurred:
(03:34:06 AM) No sweat
(03:34:06 AM) Message could not be sent because a connection error occurred:
(03:34:06 AM) got it
(03:34:06 AM) Message could not be sent because a connection error occurred:
(03:34:06 AM) sweet
(03:34:06 AM) Message could not be sent because a connection error occurred:
(03:34:06 AM) just starry eyed
(03:34:13 AM) Daniel: Are th repositories safe for one such as myself?
(03:34:24 AM) dsio: how do you mean?
(03:35:03 AM) Daniel: E. Settings, themes
(03:35:30 AM) dsio: you can play around changing the theme in emerald as much as you like.
(03:35:35 AM) dsio: it does no harm
(03:35:53 AM) Daniel: cool. How are we doing on yourr time?
(03:36:51 AM) dsio: fine
(03:37:16 AM) dsio: next part is installing some more plugins
(03:37:21 AM) Daniel: Security, i killed me last time. can we unlock my DVD and other files?
(03:37:37 AM) Daniel: Plug in are good ":O}
(03:37:42 AM) dsio: open a new terminal window and su to root again
(03:37:52 AM) Daniel: there
(03:38:04 AM) dsio: type this: yum install kmod-ntfs
(03:38:50 AM) Daniel: running, If I had ti type this stuff we wouldn't be her
(03:39:02 AM) dsio: k
(03:39:17 AM) Daniel: installing
(03:39:34 AM) Daniel: Transaction Summary

[Daniel ~]

================================================== ===========================
Install 2 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 160 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/2): kmod-ntfs-2.1.28-2 100% |=========================| 106 kB 00:01
(2/2): ntfs-kmod-common-2 100% |=========================| 54 kB 00:00
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: kmod-ntfs ######################### [1/2]
Installing: ntfs-kmod-common ######################### [2/2]

Installed: kmod-ntfs.i686 0:2.1.28-2.2.6.21_1.3228.fc7
Dependency Installed: ntfs-kmod-common.noarch 0:2.1.28-1.lvn7
Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(03:39:44 AM) dsio: ok, cool
(03:39:50 AM) dsio: next, type this: wget http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/rel...061022.tar.bz2
(03:39:54 AM) dsio: paste i mean
(03:40:06 AM) dsio: it will download the codec pack
(03:41:00 AM) dsio: let me know when its done
(03:41:10 AM) Daniel: I have to cut in two part because of the addy, runing
(03:41:36 AM) dsio: it should take a little bit of time to download
(03:41:41 AM) Daniel: Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: kmod-ntfs ######################### [1/2]
Installing: ntfs-kmod-common ######################### [2/2]

Installed: kmod-ntfs.i686 0:2.1.28-2.2.6.21_1.3228.fc7
Dependency Installed: ntfs-kmod-common.noarch 0:2.1.28-1.lvn7
Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# wget http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/rel...061022.tar.bz2
--03:40:44-- http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/rel...061022.tar.bz2
=> `essential-20061022.tar.bz2'
Resolving www1.mplayerhq.hu... 213.144.138.186
Connecting to www1.mplayerhq.hu|213.144.138.186|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 10,080,104 (9.6M) [application/octet-stream]

100%[====================================>] 10,080,104 917.86K/s ETA 00:00

03:40:58 (749.68 KB/s) - `essential-20061022.tar.bz2' saved [10080104/10080104]

[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(03:41:48 AM) dsio: perfect
(03:42:00 AM) dsio: now paste this: gtar xjvf essential-20061022.tar.bz2
(03:42:21 AM) dsio: paste back to me the last couple of lines
(03:42:22 AM) Daniel: done
(03:42:42 AM) Daniel: alf2cd.acm
essential-20061022/aslcodec_dshow.dll
essential-20061022/atrac3.acm
essential-20061022/atrc.so.6.0
essential-20061022/clrviddd.dll
essential-20061022/cook.so
essential-20061022/drvc.so
essential-20061022/dspr.so.6.0
essential-20061022/iac25_32.ax
essential-20061022/icmw_32.dll
essential-20061022/imc32.acm
essential-20061022/ir41_32.dll
essential-20061022/ir50_32.dll
essential-20061022/ivvideo.dll
essential-20061022/jp2avi.dll
essential-20061022/lhacm.acm
essential-20061022/m3jp2k32.dll
essential-20061022/msh261.drv
essential-20061022/msscds32.ax
essential-20061022/nsrt2432.acm
essential-20061022/qpeg32.dll
essential-20061022/qtmlClient.dll
essential-20061022/rt32dcmp.dll
essential-20061022/sipr.so.6.0
essential-20061022/tokf.so.6.0
essential-20061022/tokr.so.6.0
essential-20061022/vid_3ivX.xa
essential-20061022/vivog723.acm
essential-20061022/voxmsdec.ax
essential-20061022/vp4vfw.dll
essential-20061022/vp6vfw.dll
essential-20061022/vssh264.dll
essential-20061022/vssh264core.dll
essential-20061022/vssh264dec.dll
essential-20061022/vsslight.dll
essential-20061022/vsswlt.dll
essential-20061022/wma9dmod.dll
essential-20061022/wmadmod.dll
essential-20061022/wmspdmod.dll
essential-20061022/wmv9dmod.dll
essential-20061022/wmvdmod.dll
essential-20061022/wnvwinx.dll
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#
etc...
(03:42:46 AM) dsio: perfect
(03:42:53 AM) dsio: now paste in this: mkdir /usr/local/lib/win32
(03:43:28 AM) Daniel: and?
(03:43:44 AM) Daniel: [root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# mkdir /usr/local/lib/win32
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#
(03:43:49 AM) dsio: once thats done, pate in this: cp essential-20061022/* /usr/local/lib/win32
(03:44:19 AM) Daniel: root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# cp essential-20061022/* /usr/local/lib/win32
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#


(03:44:41 AM) dsio: now I want you to do this: yum install kaffeine
(03:45:16 AM) Daniel: DLing
(03:45:24 AM) dsio: let me know when its done
(03:45:57 AM) Unable to send message: The message is too large.
(03:46:18 AM) Daniel: 1/6): libXvMC-1.0.4-1.fc 100% |=========================| 22 kB 00:00
(2/6): wavpack-4.41-1.fc7 100% |=========================| 120 kB 00:00
(3/6): xine-lib-1.1.7-1.f 100% |=========================| 2.5 MB 00:06
(4/6): kaffeine-0.8.4-1.f 100% |=========================| 3.1 MB 00:06
(5/6): libmpcdec-1.2.2-4. 100% |=========================| 30 kB 00:00
(6/6): libmodplug-0.8.4-1 100% |=========================| 170 kB 00:01
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: libXvMC ######################### [1/6]
Installing: wavpack ######################### [2/6]
Installing: libmpcdec ######################### [3/6]
Installing: libmodplug ######################### [4/6]
Installing: xine-lib ######################### [5/6]
Installing: kaffeine ######################### [6/6]

Installed: kaffeine.i386 0:0.8.4-1.fc7
Dependency Installed: libXvMC.i386 0:1.0.4-1.fc7 libmodplug.i386 1:0.8.4-1.fc7 libmpcdec.i386 0:1.2.2-4.fc6 wavpack.i386 0:4.41-1.fc7 xine-lib.i386 0:1.1.7-1.fc7
Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(03:46:35 AM) Daniel: Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: libXvMC ######################### [1/6]
Installing: wavpack ######################### [2/6]
Installing: libmpcdec ######################### [3/6]
Installing: libmodplug ######################### [4/6]
Installing: xine-lib ######################### [5/6]
Installing: kaffeine ######################### [6/6]

Installed: kaffeine.i386 0:0.8.4-1.fc7
Dependency Installed: libXvMC.i386 0:1.0.4-1.fc7 libmodplug.i386 1:0.8.4-1.fc7 libmpcdec.i386 0:1.2.2-4.fc6 wavpack.i386 0:4.41-1.fc7 xine-lib.i386 0:1.1.7-1.fc7
Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(03:46:49 AM) dsio: ok cool. now Kaffeine is installed. At this time I would download some free mp3s to test
(03:46:49 AM) Daniel: Installed: kaffeine.i386 0:0.8.4-1.fc7
Dependency Installed: libXvMC.i386 0:1.0.4-1.fc7 libmodplug.i386 1:0.8.4-1.fc7 libmpcdec.i386 0:1.2.2-4.fc6 wavpack.i386 0:4.41-1.fc7 xine-lib.i386 0:1.1.7-1.fc7
Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Danie
(03:47:16 AM) Daniel: Sorry don't always see if it posts
(03:47:47 AM) Daniel: Ricky Lee Jones is good.":O}
(03:48:16 AM) dsio: actually, do you have any music on your windows hard disks?
(03:48:57 AM) Daniel: No. I listen to comcast or cd's
(03:49:35 AM) dsio: ok, well go to Applications -> Sound & Video -> Kaffeine
(03:49:57 AM) dsio: its icon is an orange/black tablet looking thing.
(03:50:08 AM) Daniel: got it
(03:50:41 AM) dsio: kaffeine is a similar thing to windows media center.
(03:50:50 AM) Daniel: Kaffeine-Xine...
Ok.
KDE...
Found version: 3.5.7-0.1.fc7 Fedora
Ok.WIN32 Codecs...
No WIN32 codecs found in /usr/lib/win32. You're not able to play Windows Media 9 files, newer Real Media files and some less common formats. Download the codecs here: http://www.mplayerhq.hu.
libdvdcss...
libdvdcss not found. You're not able to play encrypted (most commercial) DVD's. You can get the library here (but using it may violate copyright regulations of your country!): http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss.
DVD Drive...
Can't check DMA mode. Permission denied or no such device: "/dev/dvd".
DVB-Device...
No DVB-Devices found. The DVB related functions will be hidden.
Distribution...
Ok.
RESULT: Found some problems, but nevertheless Kaffeine may work.
(03:52:06 AM) dsio: ok, do this form me: mkdir /usr/lib/win32
(03:52:30 AM) dsio: then do this: cp /usr/local/lib/win32/* /usr/lib/win32/
(03:52:36 AM) Daniel: [root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# mkdir /usr/lib/win32
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(03:53:05 AM) Daniel: [root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# cp /usr/local/lib/win32/* /usr/lib/win32/
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]#

(03:53:53 AM) dsio: ok, now I need to do something tricky.
(03:54:05 AM) dsio: type this: cd /dev
(03:54:06 AM) Daniel: I trust you LOL LOL
(03:54:30 AM) dsio: you see colors ok dont you?
(03:54:33 AM) Daniel: [root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# cd /dev
[root@dhcppc1 dev]#

(03:54:41 AM) Daniel: yes
(03:55:07 AM) dsio: actually i can make it easier with a tricky statement. give me a second
(03:55:16 AM) Daniel: blue/some shades of green can be iffy
(03:55:41 AM) dsio: do this, and paste me the results: ls -lhs | grep cd
(03:56:18 AM) Daniel: Complete!
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# mkdir /usr/lib/win32
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# cp /usr/local/lib/win32/* /usr/lib/win32/
[root@dhcppc1 Daniel]# cd /dev
[root@dhcppc1 dev]# ls -lhs | grep cd
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 cdrom -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 cdrom-sr0 -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 cdrom-sr1 -> scd1
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 cdrw -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 cdrw-sr0 -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 cdwriter -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 cdwriter-sr0 -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 dvd -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 dvdrw -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 dvdrw-sr0 -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 dvd-sr0 -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 dvdwriter -> scd0
0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-14 03:01 dvdwriter-sr0 -> scd0
0 brw-rw----+ 1 Daniel disk 11, 0 2007-07-14 03:01 scd0
0 brw-rw----+ 1 Daniel disk 11, 1 2007-07-14 03:01 scd1
[root@dhcppc1 dev]#
(03:57:07 AM) dsio: so you have two cd rom disks?
(03:57:13 AM) dsio: two CD drives?
(03:57:17 AM) Daniel: One cd one DVD
(03:58:04 AM) Daniel: both R/W
(03:58:07 AM) dsio: that all looks good.
(03:58:14 AM) Daniel: ":O}
(03:58:24 AM) dsio: pop a CD in the main drive, and see if kaffeine will play it.
(03:58:29 AM) Daniel: My sig don't work!
(03:58:41 AM) Daniel: should be a smile
(03:58:52 AM) Daniel: One sec
(04:01:24 AM) Daniel: hmmm CD won't open...Buuutttt! DVD plays beatufully!
(04:01:52 AM) dsio: so you can play music off the cd ok?
(04:01:55 AM) Daniel: CD light on, but won't open when button pushed
(04:02:16 AM) dsio: that isnt a linux thing, thats just a gay cdrom drive :P
(04:02:38 AM) dsio: so is the cd working in the dvd drive?
(04:02:50 AM) Daniel: Could be. Might need to adjust th drive in case
(04:03:03 AM) Daniel: Oh! Yes!
(04:03:32 AM) dsio: well, beryl is now working, cd drive is now working, sound card is now working and you've installed the nvidia drivers correctly, you want to call it a night at that?
(04:04:00 AM) dsio: can get onto some other things, like being able to access your windows hard drives from windows tomorrow
(04:04:19 AM) Daniel: SEcurity, how do I lessen it on Comcast, it's listed some wher but I can understand the instructions
(04:04:35 AM) dsio: you mean SElinux?
(04:04:41 AM) Daniel: yeah
(04:04:47 AM) dsio: you want to just disable it?
(04:05:04 AM) Daniel: Just tell it to allow comcast
(04:05:23 AM) dsio: just to go System -> Administration -> Firewall and SElinux
(04:05:40 AM) dsio: a window should pop up, with 3 tabs.
(04:05:54 AM) Daniel: Enforcing?
(04:05:59 AM) dsio: under the Firewall options tab (first tab) set the firewall to 'Disabled'
(04:06:15 AM) dsio: then under the SElinux tab, set SElinux to "Disabled"
(04:06:26 AM) dsio: I just turn it off on my main machine, its a pain in the ass otherwise.
(04:07:25 AM) Daniel: Got it was in wrong menu Thanks Dsio!
(04:07:43 AM) Daniel: I was i wrong menu,
(04:09:24 AM) dsio: dont forget to post what you've achieved to the peanut gallery. My point is thus proven, that a 60 year old dislexic bloke can setup beryl, nvidia drivers, sound, and media players/codecs under linux, which means if they can't then they're either lazy, or idiots.
(04:09:44 AM) dsio:
(04:10:30 AM) dsio: by the way, if you want to use an email application, try Evolution. Its under Applications -> Internet -> Email
(04:10:39 AM) Daniel: IF he has a 20 year old to hold his hand! I was thinking YOU HAVE to wright this up! if only for the forum!!
(04:10:51 AM) Daniel: Better than thunderbird?
(04:11:05 AM) dsio: oh, are you using thunderbird? by all means use that if you like it.
(04:11:12 AM) dsio: are you using thunderbird under linux?
(04:11:17 AM) Daniel: Really do
(04:11:27 AM) Daniel: hell teah!
(04:11:48 AM) Daniel: Go on ask...LOL
(04:11:55 AM) dsio: you didnt have any trouble setting it up under linux?
(04:12:17 AM) dsio: (I've never used it)
(04:12:21 AM) Daniel: No, it pretty much just laid down for me
(04:12:26 AM) dsio: cool
(04:12:44 AM) dsio: well dont forget to post that you have that working as well :P
(04:12:44 AM) Daniel: It was It made Linux seem possible!
(04:13:02 AM) dsio: im going to go grab some dinner now
(04:13:24 AM) Daniel: See you tommorow, have a good one
END Conversation

I hope this is worth the trouble to pull the relevant info from, it put a great big smile

[Daniel ~]

Will post of our continuing adventures as they accrue":O} If any have questions I'm sure dsio would be happy to answer them when I cannot or when I'm wrong! ":O}

[robbie]

You finally got an instant messenger!!
Glad to see Fedora is working for you as well!!

[Daniel ~]

No I didn't !!

I just used diso's for an hour or two, he's taken it back now!

[cloasters]

I had no idea that you were this deep into Linux. You are indeed da man!
dsio is too!

[Daniel ~]

Personally, I think this something of a treasure for those wishing to get a good start in Linux. ) I've copied it every where I can think of to save it! LOL

Things are really going well this time. Spend all my time in Linux on the site and when doing back end work... I have an appointment tomorrow to with Dsio to try and get my games up and running...will update with our progress...

[robbie]

I'll be watching, and waiting!!

[dsio]

Originally Posted by Daniel ~

Personally, I think this something of a treasure for those wishing to get a good start in Linux. ) I've copied it every where I can think of to save it! LOL

Things are really going well this time. Spend all my time in Linux on the site and when doing back end work... I have an appointment tomorrow to with Dsio to try and get my games up and running...will update with our progress...

To clarify, Dan is talking about using the subscription based software offered by Transgaming called Cedega. Cedega is based on Wine, and allows users to play games that use Microsoft's DirectX 9.0C on linux. The reason its needed, is that DirectX is not licensed by Microsoft, so the open source OpenGL/OpenAL are used to replace DirectX's equivilants under linux and MacOSX.

Cedega costs $5/month, but in that, you are given all updates and new versions, along with support from the developers, which is very useful.

There are many games that are not dependant on DirectX, and can be run natively under linux. Most people are surprised by the number of games that will run out of the box, with SDL instead of DirectX. Here's a short list:

Civilization: Call to Power
Descent³
Doom 3
FreeSpace 2
Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.²
Heretic II
Heroes of Might and Magic III
Myth II
Quake 4
Rune
Rune: Halls of Valhalla
Shogo: Mobile Armor Division
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
Sim City 3000
Simutrans
Soldier of Fortune
Unreal Tournament
Unreal Tournament 2003
Unreal Tournament 2004

The new id software game, and UT2007 will no doubt be linux native as well. Some of these SDL games, such as UT2004, can actually play faster under linux than they do under windows.

It should also be noted that UT2004 on Linux was the first ever commercial 64 bit game, over a year and a half before it was released for Windows x64.

[hjason7812]

so how do we get linux?
i have been wanting to try linux for awhile now but i only found it for sale.
how do we use it for free?
thanks

[Pitch]

Simply download the .iso

Public Active Mirrors

You can get the full DVD, or if you prefer you can get the live CD to try it, and then opt to install from it should you want it. If you install via the live CD, you'll need to be connected to the net, as the insaller downloads a good proportion of the data during the install.

[robbie]

Originally Posted by hjason7812

so how do we get linux?
i have been wanting to try linux for awhile now but i only found it for sale.
how do we use it for free?
thanks

A download off of our file page is probably going to be the fastest for you.
You can find it here. Just scroll down a little.

[hjason7812]

and this is for fedora win xp right?
thanks for your reply by the way

[hjason7812]

thank you for your reply i have found fedora site and it is free.
but it is confusing as to how to download the os.
they have all of these file names on a server and you click on one and it open up a hundred others.
they should just make it easy to download with like two or three links.

[hjason7812]

Originally Posted by Pitch

Simply download the .iso

Public Active Mirrors

You can get the full DVD, or if you prefer you can get the live CD to try it, and then opt to install from it should you want it. If you install via the live CD, you'll need to be connected to the net, as the insaller downloads a good proportion of the data during the install.

and this is for fedora win xp right?
thanks for your reply by the way

[dsio]

Originally Posted by hjason7812

and this is for fedora win xp right?
thanks for your reply by the way

Fedora winxp? I think you're a bit confused.

Fedora Linux is an operating system, it replaces Windows XP, it doesn't run <in> windows XP.

[hjason7812]

i know that but they have a version i seen on there site that lets xp files run with in fedora and vise versa

[hjason7812]

can you help me? all that fedora wants to do is download to my cd creator. do i have to make a cd or dvd to install fedora?

[dsio]

Honestly, I think Fedora isn't something you will enjoy, or find usable.

If you've had this trouble so far, there is absolutely no chance you will be able to use it. This isnt to be rude, its not the easiest thing in the world, but its something you really need some propper background knowledge for.